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Mar 9 2023 02:50pm
If im really bad at path of exile in general, do you think i might actually enjoy / be good at ruthless in some weird paradox?
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Mar 9 2023 03:22pm
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If im really bad at path of exile in general, do you think i might actually enjoy / be good at ruthless in some weird paradox?


can you enjoy it? yes ^_^ ! there are many things most people are really bad at, yet everyone enjoys it. for example sex, kissing, dancing, driving, sports, etc :blush: !

can you be good at ruthless while being bad in poe in general? also yes ^_^ !1 think of ruthless as the game of pool. no one is good at pool. but everyone likes to play it! one might say people play it BECAUSE they arent good at it :wacko: there are no expectations set, you can suck all you want, because everyone else does. and if you pull some insanity by sheer accident, you are allowed (and even expected to) say something like "oh yeah, i planned that -_- "

basically ruthless takes the source of being bad from you to sort of a general state. the system is less complex so the difference in power between left and right end of the distribution is smaller :blush: basically you will still suck, but you will suck much less compared to before!

also by some sheer coincidence you might not only be "less bad" at ruthless, but even good. the fact that one is a subtype of the other with high correlation doesnt mean a 100% correlation. for example jordan peterson is a fucking midwit when general intelligence is concerned, yet he has a genius level verbal iq specifically :mellow:



tldr: just focus on enjoyment and not on being good or not :blush:
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Mar 9 2023 03:52pm
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can you enjoy it? yes ^_^ ! there are many things most people are really bad at, yet everyone enjoys it. for example sex, kissing, dancing, driving, sports, etc :blush: !

can you be good at ruthless while being bad in poe in general? also yes ^_^ !1 think of ruthless as the game of pool. no one is good at pool. but everyone likes to play it! one might say people play it BECAUSE they arent good at it :wacko: there are no expectations set, you can suck all you want, because everyone else does. and if you pull some insanity by sheer accident, you are allowed (and even expected to) say something like "oh yeah, i planned that -_- "

basically ruthless takes the source of being bad from you to sort of a general state. the system is less complex so the difference in power between left and right end of the distribution is smaller :blush: basically you will still suck, but you will suck much less compared to before!

also by some sheer coincidence you might not only be "less bad" at ruthless, but even good. the fact that one is a subtype of the other with high correlation doesnt mean a 100% correlation. for example jordan peterson is a fucking midwit when general intelligence is concerned, yet he has a genius level verbal iq specifically :mellow:



tldr: just focus on enjoyment and not on being good or not :blush:


hmm i dont think i will find any enjoyment in it and any sort of trading would be destroyed by meta power creep builds like in leagues
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hmm i dont think i will find any enjoyment in it and any sort of trading would be destroyed by meta power creep builds like in leagues


oh well then its simple, if you dont enjoy it, dont play it :unsure: !

as i said, ruthless is a less complex system. less variables means less difference between the ends of the distribution. but less variables also means less gains from them, so builds will always suck more on ruthless and not many of them will be able to pass that "threshold" of even working :wacko: so if you are playing for trading, then in general pick the more complex system if you are above the mean in the distribution curve (basically, do you suck less than the average player), or even if a little below the mean. if you are playing for enjoyment, then pick based on whatever you prefer :blush:

if you want build diversity, i recommend avoiding complex systems altogether. for example something like grim dawn or titan quest :blush: !
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Mar 9 2023 06:04pm
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oh well then its simple, if you dont enjoy it, dont play it :unsure: !

as i said, ruthless is a less complex system. less variables means less difference between the ends of the distribution. but less variables also means less gains from them, so builds will always suck more on ruthless and not many of them will be able to pass that "threshold" of even working :wacko: so if you are playing for trading, then in general pick the more complex system if you are above the mean in the distribution curve (basically, do you suck less than the average player), or even if a little below the mean. if you are playing for enjoyment, then pick based on whatever you prefer :blush:

if you want build diversity, i recommend avoiding complex systems altogether. for example something like grim dawn or titan quest :blush: !


less? i thought it was supposed to be more difficult
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less? i thought it was supposed to be more difficult


wellll a less complex system is easier to control, so its easier to be made difficult or easy based on devs preferences. grim dawn doesnt have many mechanics interactions so its very controllable. you literally cant break that game :cry: everything is perfectly balanced and i actually kinda hate that :wacko:

poe on the other hand has so many interactions that its completely chaotic, which is why game gets broken every patch and devs have to intervene :wacko:
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