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Jun 17 2020 09:28pm
Quote (Rehbock @ Jun 17 2020 06:37pm)
Kay: "Spectres & Spiders is same as before. But I have some new tricks for even faster mapping and more bossing DPS! "

so you are just full of shit :rolleyes:



Keep reading and look at the Pob Plugged in # and lost bout 1m dps per spec
Of course he wants people to keep playing it so he’s gonna say shit like that
Also if you read my post I’ve said summoners are still strong
I like how u dodge my questions tho
Top streamers like ziz and steel agree ss vd desereves a nerf
Go wait in a corner and wait for someone to make a build so u can copy it Cuz it’s obvious you’re shit

This post was edited by jtrac07 on Jun 17 2020 09:32pm
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Jun 17 2020 09:31pm
minion builds = cuckoldry
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Vicious Bite is 50/20 (from 50/50)
Precise Commander is 30/12 (from 50/15)

EDIT: In my particular case with 3x VB and 3x Precise Commander
-33% of spectre damage (2.45m -> 1.66m) and
-15% spider damage (354k -> 301k)


Yeah I just saw it when looking carefull at tree.

Also new Vicious Bite multi says 'minions'. Before it was only spectre, zombie, skele

I have 2 VB and 4 Precise/Vengeful

Pure Spectre build RS: 5.5M -> 4.6M


S&S build RS: 882k -> 685k
S&S build Spider: 137k -> 141k

I have my S&S for speed mapping (minion speed and ele prolif).


plus the argument was if summoners got nerfed or not i dont think its up for debate
losing min dmg/as/acc from the tree alone counts as a nerf
if u look at my old post ive been calling for summoners/miners/ss to get nerfed before patch notes im glad they nerfed these top builds but ggg missed one
also whos multi are u or did u buy that acc 2013 just started posting less than a month ago
also they didnt nerf these builds enough still gonna roll ss vd for starter then bl miner for boss killer

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Jun 17 2020 10:19pm
Quote (Hopelessness @ Jun 17 2020 08:31pm)
minion builds = cuckoldry


necromancer = cuck
1 ascendancy + 1 keystone = cap block
im a cuck
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Jun 17 2020 10:32pm
block?...

oh. softcore/10 :thumbsup:
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Jun 17 2020 10:41pm
Quote (Hopelessness @ Jun 17 2020 09:32pm)
block?...

oh. softcore/10 :thumbsup:


ive played all leagues but how does this make sense isnt block valued on hc?
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ive played all leagues but how does this make sense isnt block valued on hc?


no cause only trash plays hc and no one cares about them
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Jun 17 2020 11:13pm
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ive played all leagues but how does this make sense isnt block valued on hc?


I mean, didn't you just say you played all leagues, so you should know the answer?
depends, sure block can work in some cases especially high EHP, but if you don't have very high EHP, you take a large dmg spike and die, eventually... so straight dmg reduction is superior
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Quote (Hopelessness @ Jun 17 2020 10:13pm)
I mean, didn't you just say you played all leagues, so you should know the answer?
depends, sure block can work in some cases especially high EHP, but if you don't have very high EHP, you take a large dmg spike and die, eventually... so straight dmg reduction is superior


i havnt played hc league in over a year i mean youre gonna get 1 shotted sooner or later with how the game is now
u wouldnt grab glancing blow if youre next to it? not like its your only defense
but most sc would just skip over it just dont understand that comment
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Jun 18 2020 05:13am
Quote (jtrac07 @ Jun 18 2020 05:28am)

Top streamers like ziz and steel agree ss vd desereves a nerf
Go wait in a corner and wait for someone to make a build so u can copy it Cuz it’s obvious you’re shit


so i have also follow some streamers and copy their opinions and in the end their builds?

is that not what you are doing?
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