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Jul 1 2015 12:32pm
Quote (airforceman24 @ 1 Jul 2015 20:32)
There are people who have thousands of hours played and <20 exalts to ever drop and not 1 T1 unique. So.... What do you say to those people?.


Heh, and how would you know that?
Someone with such a ridiculous amount played just straight through that to your face?
It sounds like you're just making shit up here.

Not going to even bother trying to read your other posts.
PoE is the king of its genre. You like it or not.
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(airforceman24 @ 1 Jul 2015 20:32)
There are people who have thousands of hours played and <20 exalts to ever drop and not 1 T1 unique. So.... What do you say to those people?.

Heh, and how would you know that?
Someone with such a ridiculous amount played just straight through that to your face?
It sounds like you're just making shit up here.

Not going to even bother trying to read your other posts.
PoE is the king of its genre. You like it or not.



PoE is the best arpg atm sure but I can definitely back this up. Drops are shit.

I play on & off since the 3rd day of the open Beta in January 2013.

Most valuable unique I ever found was a Binos (got 1k fg yeah !) und the overall exalt count is 27. Mirror Count is zero. Eternal Count is zero. 6l found is zero (though I might found one did not see it in the mess who knows ?).

I got 4 x 90+ chars plus like 15 x lvl 80+ chars I deleted to use the names again, got a hardcore 80+ char that is alive as well.

I mainly play solo and do not build for rarity on my chars. I try to maintain a solid 60-100 iir but thats it. Running 75-78 maps with incr. monster pack size only, without this mod it just feels like a waste of time xp wise. Drops might be better in parties like doing dom rotations and what not and with special chars like mf cullers I don't know. Or maybe u need to build a 100 exalt char and do uber atziri or just do normal atziri over and over with crit fb but I don't play the farm game. Honestly I view this as a game I play when I'm stoned while listening to music. Also my chars clean lvl 78 maps easily without more than 15 exalts worth of gear so whatever. Don't care about getting more fg either because the main reason to have it was always d2 pvp and this is kinda dead even though I maintain my d2 eu nl pvp acc, cannot get myself to let it expire.
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Jul 1 2015 02:02pm
Quote (HardyTarget @ Jul 1 2015 12:32pm)
Heh, and how would you know that?
Someone with such a ridiculous amount played just straight through that to your face?
It sounds like you're just making shit up here.

Not going to even bother trying to read your other posts.
PoE is the king of its genre. You like it or not.


Look at the post right above this. This guy proves exactly what I said. He may be ok with that because hes stoned or whatever the fuck nolife shit he does but Some of have lives/jobs and cant get rekkd and play games in moms basement.

So yeah oh and I am sure I have a shitton of hours played myself and havent found a single t1 and maybe 6 exalts found. But i mean... I dont nolife like you.

And what in the hell are you talking about king of its genre? If you are a nolife douche then yeah. Other than that its a timesink with no reward. Good day sir. Lol king of the genre. The fuck up.
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Jul 1 2015 02:10pm
Quote (airforceman24 @ Jul 1 2015 06:32pm)
lol. Gotta love the go play d3 crowd.

SO because I do not want to grind 10 hours a day or 3 a day for months... I want everything handed to me? There are people who have thousands of hours played and <20 exalts to ever drop and not 1 T1 unique. So.... What do you say to those people?

Chaos receipe? Flip items? Make a store? Go play d3? Make a farming/mf char? Multibox?

Serioiusly? What in the fuck is the fun of NEVER finding anything and having to save and buy. Why do you people defend this? Im not talking about I WANT SHAVS IN <100 or even 1k hours... Im talking finding anything that get a holy shit reaction in 2 fucking thousand hours.



Quote (airforceman24 @ Jun 29 2015 11:27pm)
But thats the thing. Natural progression should be the challenge/hard. We do not have that because the game is based around the "trade market values" and nolifing. Everyone always talks about the people who lvl to 100 in a few weeks as though that is the norm and SOMETHING MUST BE DONE ABOUT EXP GAINS!! Truth is those neckbeards are going to still neckbeard no matter what it takes. They have no life. They nolife the game to be at the top. That doesnt make them good or better than anyone. That only means they are without sun/girlfriends/jobs/parents who will stop feeding them. That shouldnt be the deciding factor of how a NORMAL person plays and progresses.

I am sure GGG though making currency/crafting materials the same would put some kind of awesome twist on crafting or buying items. Like it would be some hard decision for people to say hmmmm I have this dagger I could craft or I could buy a dagger. Well guess what. Ya done fukked it up because for 99% of the players that is not a question they ever ask. Its always save save save. Thats why the system is so fukked. Those same neckbeards are hoarding/cornering the market because THEY CAN. GGG watches them like they are the shit when in fact they are the worst thing that can happen to this game. Especially when they say themselves that drops are based off trade.

Those people having what they have is fine. I dont want what they have. I dont want free t1 uniques or mirror worthy items. Hell I dont even lvl past like 85 because its a chore. A chore with no reward. I just want to be able to get to lvl 85 and know the chance of something great dropping is actually a chance. Not that oh well I only have about 50 hours in this char so yeah... nothings going to drop. Thats how it feels. Thats not how a game should feel. Shits weak.


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=72879745&f=160&o=50
If you look at my other poll, you dont nesscary need to lose your job, or have a no life to be level 100/ sucessful.

If you keep rolling lowlevel toons, of course you'll get nothing of high value, and generally low level toons are expensive... The key is to play smart.

Playing self found just makes your life harder, if you desire to play selfound, in order to make the game harder for yourself, by your own personal choice, as you refuse to trade, you should have no rights complain about gettting no good drops of high value, your self found, why does full t1 items bother you? Why does t1 uniques matter to you? This game is based on trade, not a solo experience.

Quote (dog1706 @ Jun 30 2015 11:42pm)
I have a job and a wife and now a 10 month old and i was able to hit 100 only getting limited playing time in at night when i got home from work.
And that is with my son getting up and me having to leave rots in the middle and missing maps. Unfortunately alot of people hit 100 at the same time i did and the people to rot with took a nosedive.


Side note; I dislike selfound, and if I was playing selfound I'd be as frustrated as you are.

One man's gold is another's treasure, what you may think is useless could be gold to others. You don't nesscary need full t1 items to make it of high value, it's the combination of mods, but you play selfound with a limited view on the wide scheme of things to truly know what's niche and of high value.

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Jul 1 2015 02:18pm
Quote (Untouch @ Jul 1 2015 08:33pm)
PoE is the best arpg atm sure but I can definitely back this up. Drops are shit.

I play on & off since the 3rd day of the open Beta in January 2013.

Most valuable unique I ever found was a Binos (got 1k fg yeah !) und the overall exalt count is 27. Mirror Count is zero. Eternal Count is zero. 6l found is zero (though I might found one did not see it in the mess who knows ?).

I got 4 x 90+ chars plus like 15 x lvl 80+ chars I deleted to use the names again, got a hardcore 80+ char that is alive as well.

I mainly play solo and do not build for rarity on my chars. I try to maintain a solid 60-100 iir but thats it. Running 75-78 maps with incr. monster pack size only, without this mod it just feels like a waste of time xp wise. Drops might be better in parties like doing dom rotations and what not and with special chars like mf cullers I don't know. Or maybe u need to build a 100 exalt char and do uber atziri or just do normal atziri over and over with crit fb but I don't play the farm game. Honestly I view this as a game I play when I'm stoned while listening to music. Also my chars clean lvl 78 maps easily without more than 15 exalts worth of gear so whatever. Don't care about getting more fg either because the main reason to have it was always d2 pvp and this is kinda dead even though I maintain my d2 eu nl pvp acc, cannot get myself to let it expire.


i am NEVER beleve in magic find
my best drops are next

bringer of rain - 0iiq 0iir (in those old days it was realy rare drop )
never found 6link and then in 1day i found two of them (that was happen 9month ago and never again found them since then ) booth from strongbox 1was mirrored :P
crown of eyes - found in colonade map 0iir 0iiq
mjolner - docks found 0/0 iir iiq
mjolner - dominus run on trash mob and culler didnt kill him looool
mirror - found 1 before 10days i was leveling my fire trap char, intreseting thing was- i was level 69 in 69map but still 0 iiq 0iir on char and map was from zana with monster fracture
i found just in last 1month atleast 15ex (pure exalteds )
never found eternal tho

so prety mutch yea, the only iir im might had was from items like rats nest, i played 540/140 dual flame totem solo farmed 70-75 maps and never found shit


but i am not agree with you in one point, DROP is shit! well NO its NOT! drop is prety good you can turn all rare to chaos regal formulas, you can use shit uniq's to do chance formula you can use alch's on 75+ ilvl items
there is so many ways to earn exalteds in this game and not take alot time to get som decent amount of curency, for example you can sell gems at lvl20 or whatever, and pure drop is not that bad i was on vocation and i tested like 10hours of farming (not afk in town and chat with frends or spam trade chat ) im usualy end with like 3-4 ex


ohh yea i forgot to say, if you think this drop sucks go play diablo 2 or diablo 3, after that you will be happy with drop in poe :)

This post was edited by Hello_Kitty on Jul 1 2015 02:19pm
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Quote (Hello_Kitty @ Jul 1 2015 04:18pm)
i am NEVER beleve in magic find
my best drops are next

bringer of rain - 0iiq 0iir (in those old days it was realy rare drop )
never found 6link and then in 1day i found two of them (that was happen 9month ago and never again found them since then ) booth from strongbox 1was mirrored :P
crown of eyes - found in colonade map 0iir 0iiq
mjolner - docks found 0/0 iir iiq
mjolner - dominus run on trash mob and culler didnt kill him looool
mirror - found 1 before 10days i was leveling my fire trap char, intreseting thing was- i was level 69 in 69map but still 0 iiq 0iir on char and map was from zana with monster fracture
i found just in last 1month atleast 15ex (pure exalteds )
never found eternal tho

so prety mutch yea, the only iir im might had was from items like rats nest, i played 540/140 dual flame totem solo farmed 70-75 maps and never found shit


but i am not agree with you in one point, DROP is shit! well NO its NOT! drop is prety good you can turn all rare to chaos regal formulas, you can use shit uniq's to do chance formula you can use alch's on 75+ ilvl items
there is so many ways to earn exalteds in this game and not take alot time to get som decent amount of curency, for example you can sell gems at lvl20 or whatever, and pure drop is not that bad i was on vocation and i tested like 10hours of farming (not afk in town and chat with frends or spam trade chat ) im usualy end with like 3-4 ex


ohh yea i forgot to say, if you think this drop sucks go play diablo 2 or diablo 3, after that you will be happy with drop in poe :)


IIR/IIQ is used more to get more rares and more rare amulets/rings which are harder to drop for the chaos recipe or regal recipe in high maps.

And absurd IIR/IIQ is for boss culling so that it drop nothings but rares.

Uniques pretty much drop at their own rate. IIR/IIQ will affect it but to a much diminished rate. But with high IIR/IIQ , you can get more and more rares so yo can do the chaos recipe that much more.
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Jul 2 2015 08:02am
if you no life this game, then yeah you should be getting good at all aspects of it. trading included.

if you play just the leagues, or just casually (2 hours a night lets say), or like me you played it solo hardcore, the drops are more than acceptable. i'll try and explain.

see from my experience, i just deleted my characters when they died. so i would make it to level 40-60 on rangers, die and start over. i never did well at selling, i kept what i thought was really good, tried to buy things to fill in the gaps with my limited experience. eventually i made it even higher and started doing maps. i had found builds i enjoyed, collected 3+ sets of leveling gear for dex/str/int and even a few uniques. i traded a little bit (never flipped), joined a couple pub games, never really made more than a couple friends lol. i like that this shit is rare though, i lit the hell up when i saw a cloak of defiance (prob best item i ever found) drop in act 2 merciless, and i was devastated when i died at 74. after 1k hours i played with an mf culler killing dom, never seen drops like that! i have 3 sets of atziri and havent run her yet cause it is unknown to me. its exciting though and i cant wait to use em. i have never had a 6 link lol, never had more than maybe 10 ex total after 1k hours.

call me bad haha, i have improved enormously, but ill never be chancing volls like you guys. im getting what i want out of this game, it's a lot of fun. i am level 87 on the perm hc league, and the next 3 month i hope to get to 100! i see absolutely nothing wrong with the drops, both for solo play and for merchants.

then again i loved 1.0.8 d3 (i was one of only 87 people in north america to get to p100 on a hardcore demon hunter), so take that how you will lol

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Jul 2 2015 02:23pm
Quote (IsolationYears @ Jul 2 2015 03:02pm)
if you no life this game, then yeah you should be getting good at all aspects of it. trading included.

if you play just the leagues, or just casually (2 hours a night lets say), or like me you played it solo hardcore, the drops are more than acceptable. i'll try and explain.

see from my experience, i just deleted my characters when they died. so i would make it to level 40-60 on rangers, die and start over. i never did well at selling, i kept what i thought was really good, tried to buy things to fill in the gaps with my limited experience. eventually i made it even higher and started doing maps. i had found builds i enjoyed, collected 3+ sets of leveling gear for dex/str/int and even a few uniques. i traded a little bit (never flipped), joined a couple pub games, never really made more than a couple friends lol. i like that this shit is rare though, i lit the hell up when i saw a cloak of defiance (prob best item i ever found) drop in act 2 merciless, and i was devastated when i died at 74. after 1k hours i played with an mf culler killing dom, never seen drops like that! i have 3 sets of atziri and havent run her yet cause it is unknown to me. its exciting though and i cant wait to use em. i have never had a 6 link lol, never had more than maybe 10 ex total after 1k hours.

call me bad haha, i have improved enormously, but ill never be chancing volls like you guys. im getting what i want out of this game, it's a lot of fun. i am level 87 on the perm hc league, and the next 3 month i hope to get to 100! i see absolutely nothing wrong with the drops, both for solo play and for merchants.

then again i loved 1.0.8 d3 (i was one of only 87 people in north america to get to p100 on a hardcore demon hunter), so take that how you will lol


i am agree with you, but im claim next, sime amount of time per day in diablo 3 and sime amount per day in path of exile, you just cant compare in path of exile you can go 78maps all selffound if you just have right build ( i am not talk to 2min 78map run ) but still its posible to do, i had when i quited 1890 hours in diablo 3 and my best drop was ice climbers for 350kk and my whole gear was sold (when i quited ) for 16 bil, so yea auction hause snipe was only way to get gg gear in that game or rmt, people cant cry about drop in poe cos its realy decent, i am not saying its great but still its decent, imagine if you can find 20ex worth of items every day, what wuld be price of exalted 5fg? and gg mirror items wuld cost again like 1000-2000ex?
so yea my point is next, in sime time i spend (4-8hours per day) in path of exile and diablo3 path of exile win defently

edit: btw i had 3x para 100on sc and para 98on hc (i quited )
but still im tempting to give d3 new shot and try expanzion ( i didnt even bother to try it )

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i am agree with you, but im claim next, sime amount of time per day in diablo 3 and sime amount per day in path of exile, you just cant compare in path of exile you can go 78maps all selffound if you just have right build ( i am not talk to 2min 78map run ) but still its posible to do, i had when i quited 1890 hours in diablo 3 and my best drop was ice climbers for 350kk and my whole gear was sold (when i quited ) for 16 bil, so yea auction hause snipe was only way to get gg gear in that game or rmt, people cant cry about drop in poe cos its realy decent, i am not saying its great but still its decent, imagine if you can find 20ex worth of items every day, what wuld be price of exalted 5fg? and gg mirror items wuld cost again like 1000-2000ex?
so yea my point is next, in sime time i spend (4-8hours per day) in path of exile and diablo3 path of exile win defently

edit: btw i had 3x para 100on sc and para 98on hc (i quited )
but still im tempting to give d3 new shot and try expanzion ( i didnt even bother to try it )


yeah that was about my experience as well. still had lots of fun :). i mained witch doc (had 2 hardcore p100 WD's and a p100 monk) and found a few 200-400m items, best sale for me was when i found hardcores #1 dps skorn lol, sold for 800m iirc. had 1563 dps haha, and only 10 skorns in softcore beat it. was pretty proud haha.

expansion has very limited trading (can only trade with people in your group and only for 2 hours max). its fun but trivially easy now haha. get it on sale ;)
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