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Jan 11 2016 03:01am
Quote (Makemetalmusic @ Jan 11 2016 09:37am)
Just stopping in to say I bought another 75 fuse today and used all of them without getting a 5L

FUCK.


you have like 1/150 chance to 5L so you're not that fucked yet

i just hope you're trying on a 6 socks base and not on 5 socks
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Quote (Ergol @ Jan 11 2016 02:01am)
you have like 1/150 chance to 5L so you're not that fucked yet

i just hope you're trying on a 6 socks base and not on 5 socks


Considering I used around 150 with no 5L I did get kinda fucked.

And yeah base is 5s, too poor to 6s it right now.
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Quote (Makemetalmusic @ Jan 11 2016 06:08am)
Considering I used around 150 with no 5L I did get kinda fucked.

And yeah base is 5s, too poor to 6s it right now.


Then your odds are smaller. You're trying to max link an item. Would be much easier with a 6s
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Quote (iiTzChunky @ Jan 11 2016 08:36am)
Then your odds are smaller. You're trying to max link an item. Would be much easier with a 6s


I feel like 5s may have better chance to 5l but cant seem to math it out. Just because 6s can get 2 kinds of 5links but also more spots to fail.

Just a fun math exercise ive been meaning to try
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Quote (Makemetalmusic @ Jan 11 2016 12:08pm)
Considering I used around 150 with no 5L I did get kinda fucked.

And yeah base is 5s, too poor to 6s it right now.


trying to manually 5L a 5 socks item is doomed to failure man
also see first post, 150 fuses used isn't that bad yet

This post was edited by Ergol on Jan 11 2016 07:07am
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Quote (IsolationYears @ Jan 11 2016 02:54pm)
I feel like 5s may have better chance to 5l but cant seem to math it out. Just because 6s can get 2 kinds of 5links but also more spots to fail.

Just a fun math exercise ive been meaning to try


For sure not.

Assume the links arent affected by number of sockets. When you have a 5s you have only 1 way to 5l. On havinv a 6s you have alread 2 (top left Slot unlinked or bottom right unlinked). So chance is Atleast Double ;)
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Quote (Barn3y_Gumble @ 11 Jan 2016 12:48)
For sure not.

Assume the links arent affected by number of sockets. When you have a 5s you have only 1 way to 5l. On havinv a 6s you have alread 2 (top left Slot unlinked or bottom right unlinked). So chance is Atleast Double ;)


Makes sense.
I never 6s my stuff by throwing jewellers at it. I ALWAYS use Vorici. Then I try linking it manually (never did 6l... only a few 5l so far)
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Jan 11 2016 11:03am
Idk but isn't "fun math exercise" as simple as :

5S = 1/5 (20%)
6S = 2/6 (33.33%)

Am I missing something here or did you just wake up? :huh:
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Quote (Dude012 @ Jan 11 2016 02:03pm)
Idk but isn't "fun math exercise" as simple as :

5S = 1/5 (20%)
6S = 2/6 (33.33%)

Am I missing something here or did you just wake up? :huh:


Well its not just 1/5

It is yes/no, or linked/not linked. So a 5 link is (1/2)^5 (think of flipping a coin 5 times, where you need 5 heads in a row to 5 link an item). But with a 6 link it becomes more complicated because the order becomes important. Getting 5 links in 6 sockets is easy (think g-g-g-g g-g) , getting a 5 linked item is less common. So it becomes a permutation issue where you factor in the order and both possible acceptable outcomes.

But to me it has to be more complicated because 1/32 chance for a 5 link seems small (then again each roll is not dependent on the last). Plus its not just about getting 5 yesses in a row, its about those 5 also being in a group of 5 as well (ie 5 links per fuse, not the last 3 of the first fuse and the first 2 of the second)

Lastly youd have to decide whether the difference if there even is any is worth the slim possibility of a 6 link, and the inherent cost of getting 6 sockets

Math in a poe thread, Fml right? lol


Tldr: i got a 0 link one time on a 6 socket and im still mad

This post was edited by IsolationYears on Jan 11 2016 12:15pm
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