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#61
Mar 2 2016 03:25pm
Quote (Untouch @ Mar 2 2016 11:19pm)
So people here are really arguing that having an ingame selling option without having to use the poe trade forum and without spending time to learn about acquisition, keeping it up to date, creating new shop threads for each league and so on is not an advantage? Especially for new players? Wow.

I mean you can argue that saving time and therefore being more efficient when trading is not enough of a gain to classify it as "pay to win" (though for this you would need an actual legal definition of what constitutes as "pay 2 win" and there is none, besides gaining an advantage over another player by paying for it in a game) but acting like it's no gain at all is a bit delusional.


well said :thumbsup: ! thats why i made the poll in the first place, to somehow show that sometimes the sheer fact that you have paid for something, might cause you to defend it even against the logical reasoning :wacko:

didnt help though, they were mean to me and called me names :cry:
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#62
Mar 2 2016 03:28pm
Quote (Snyft @ 2 Mar 2016 22:09)
quoting for truth :drool: !


Ty women!
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#63
Mar 2 2016 03:32pm
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Ty women!


oh come on :lol:
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#64
Mar 2 2016 03:51pm
I bought supporter packs. Its not p2w
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#65
Mar 2 2016 03:54pm
They should have given this feature to both normal and premium stash tabs.

Premium has the advantage to rename your tabs, but with regular they could have made it so you can set a stash tab buyout. They could have made the feature accessible to everyone. But they didn't.

If they feel their trade system sucks and needed improvements (after all the criticism from players) they should not limit it on premiums tabs.

A lot of new users don't know / want to give their info on a third party program.


Imo GGG failed here. Good base idea, but its something that needs to be TOTALLY free. Trading is the base of this type of game...

This post was edited by BiG_BeN on Mar 2 2016 03:55pm
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#66
Mar 2 2016 03:57pm
It's not P2W. /endofstory
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#67
Mar 2 2016 03:58pm
Quote (BiG_BeN @ Mar 2 2016 11:54pm)
They should have given this feature to both normal and premium stash tabs.

Premium has the advantage to rename your tabs, but with regular they could have made it so you can set a stash tab buyout. They could have made the feature accessible to everyone. But they didn't.

If they feel their trade system sucks and needed improvements (after all the criticism from players) they should not limit it on premiums tabs.

A lot of new users don't know / want to give their info on a third party program.


Imo GGG failed here. Good base idea, but its something that needs to be TOTALLY free. Trading is the base of this type of game...


yesssssss :hail:
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#68
Mar 2 2016 04:12pm
If i spend a hundred bucks on premium stash tabs, and you spend 20,000 on premium stash tabs, neither of us has an advantage in anyway.
Pay to win would imply you are leaps and bounds ahead of me.
POE is not pay to win, and if you think it is you have never played an ACTUAL pay to win game to have an idea what it entails.
The only thing that makes poe pay to win is things like jsp, which almost all of us use.
So yeah, if you want to call poe pay to win thats fine, but better not go spend any fg on items or you are a ridiculous hypocrite.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Mar 2 2016 04:13pm
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Mar 2 2016 04:18pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Mar 2 2016 06:12pm)
If i spend a hundred bucks on premium stash tabs, and you spend 20,000 on premium stash tabs, neither of us has an advantage in anyway.
Pay to win would imply you are leaps and bounds ahead of me.
POE is not pay to win, and if you think it is you have never played an ACTUAL pay to win game to have an idea what it entails.
The only thing that makes poe pay to win is things like jsp, which almost all of us use.
So yeah, if you want to call poe pay to win thats fine, but better not go spend any fg on items or you are a ridiculous hypocrite.


Still, GGG failed with this add on imo. They should have figured a way to let people set regular tabs as public.

They ofc cant just make premium stash tabs free. But there are several ways they could have done it and it sucks they didnt.

Every single QOF things about trading should come for free by default. Trading is core of the game.

I agree it doesnt make the game p2w. But gives a small advantage to people who get these premium stash tabs by facilitating trades, thus making currency quicker.

This post was edited by BiG_BeN on Mar 2 2016 04:20pm
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#70
Mar 2 2016 04:19pm
Quote (BiG_BeN @ Mar 3 2016 09:18am)
Still, GGG failed with this add on imo. They should have figured a way to let people set regular tabs as public.

They ofc cant just make premium stash tabs free. But there are several ways they could have done it and it sucks they didnt.

Every single QOF things about trading should come for free by default. Trading is core of the game.


I actually think making it work for premium is a great way to get free loaders to help support the game.
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