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Jun 27 2015 06:15am
Quote (HardyTarget @ Jun 27 2015 11:01pm)
Playing strictly selffound sounds a bit dull.
It's hard to create builds or sustain a map pool that way.

I personally use almost only selffound gear but I trade currency for sacrifice pieces, vaal orbs and maps.
Sometimes when I see a nice deal, I just might buy items too.


This is pretty much me too, i play with dej when he is on so its good times.
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Jun 27 2015 09:17am
here was my trill thread got 148 pages

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/904553
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Jun 27 2015 09:20am
Quote (Lamperouge @ Jun 26 2015 03:28pm)
Hey guys, let's make a poll today, what is your stance on "self found" idea and concept.

In general, I don't mind the self found idea and concept at all... I even find it admirable, for their dedication. However all the self found players I've met so far, has been a big pain in the arse... They get awfully defensive and intensively butt hurt when you link rare unqiue legacy and mirror worthy gear. (That's a lie, (Anuheart a really decent guy last time I talked to him.))

I understand why self found can be fun, but majority of the time the "self proclaimed Self found" players play self found because they don't like the trading aspects of PoE., PoE trading is hard and requires A lot of your time, but trade in itself is quite fun and a huge feat if you are successful! (Last few times ingame, I talked to self found players, they would more often than not accept my free currency and unqiue items. (fake lair self found players))

What and why I "dislike self found players", what annoys me about self found players is because of their constant demand for "self found game balance" if poe would be balanced for self found players, everybody would have a shavs and dual wielding loath bane, sound familiar? Yea... that's fucking D3 and I hate that. Poe trading is really fun guys! As self found you can't even min max nor try out half of the existing build!

(Bais platform poll because d2jsp has a strong veteran trade player base.)

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Masters made self found completely viable. I've done it multiple times and even on ladder I'm still top 300 within in a week. At that point I sometimes either make a new char or stop doing self-found because I'm not that big of a loner ^_^

e/ The primary problem is when people play super gear dependent builds as self-found and complain when it fails. Sorry but melee self found with 140% life at lvl 80 just wont work.

This post was edited by Nym995 on Jun 27 2015 09:22am
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Jun 27 2015 09:59am
I didnt read 7 pages of this thread but

Quote (Lamperouge @ Jun 26 2015 09:28pm)
PoE trading is hard and requires A lot of your time


That´s simply not true, with all the tools available regular trading for a regular guy requires almost no input from the player himself nowadays.
Unless u go max flip mode all day for profit if course, but i doubt selffound guys are after profit.

But again self found players are almost nonexistent, and ppl who cares for them are even less, this includes GGG
So basically no one gives a shit

This post was edited by Tshekal on Jun 27 2015 09:59am
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Jun 27 2015 10:02am
maybe they accepted your currency only to sell it on jsp?
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Jun 29 2015 09:20am
Quote (Nym995 @ Jun 27 2015 09:20am)
Masters made self found completely viable. I've done it multiple times and even on ladder I'm still top 300 within in a week. At that point I sometimes either make a new char or stop doing self-found because I'm not that big of a loner ^_^

e/ The primary problem is when people play super gear dependent builds as self-found and complain when it fails. Sorry but melee self found with 140% life at lvl 80 just wont work.


You missed the part about people not wanting to nolife the game... Seems you nolife. So... Yeah, move along.

I dont want to have to sit in front of the computer with a sh*t bucket under me to have a natural progression in the game. So yeah you and the other OH IM TOP 500 HURRDURR crew can keep that. 0 fuks given here.
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Jun 29 2015 09:39am
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You missed the part about people not wanting to nolife the game... Seems you nolife. So... Yeah, move along.

I dont want to have to sit in front of the computer with a sh*t bucket under me to have a natural progression in the game. So yeah you and the other OH IM TOP 500 HURRDURR crew can keep that. 0 fuks given here.


Isn't natural progression harder as self found? As you cannot buy those 1 off cheap deals for 1 or 2 c on poe.xyz?
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Jun 29 2015 09:44am
Quote (Lamperouge @ Jun 29 2015 11:39am)
Isn't natural progression harder as self found? As you cannot buy those 1 off cheap deals for 1 or 2 c on poe.xyz?


It's mostly just about efficiency and potion management. As well as knowing what to farm when you can depending on gear and simply skipping the content you cannot handle. It's not hard to just run past dangerous areas and leveling in *safer* areas
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Jun 29 2015 01:10pm
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I have had sold some fg for cash bruh, I aint scamming people. Hold your horses before you accuse someone of something aint nice.


So you admit that you sold fg vs cash which is prohibited to all d2jsp users. Only Paul Taulborg aka njaguar in the form of the forum bank can sell fg vs money legally. It's how this site was founded and paid for all the years. Basically you admit to scamming Paul Taulborg himself as he is the only legal seller of fg, but you do not want to be called a scammer. You also help devaluating the current fg on the market by selling it under the official rate for personal gain, thereby legally damaging all current holders of fg.

Man please I quit law years ago but you must see how this looks to a neutral person ?



@topic I try to play selffound because the game is more challenging then and because it helps saving currency in new leagues. I only buy uniques / gems when they are crucial for my build. Like Abyssus for damage or cloak of defiance for survival.
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Jun 29 2015 04:27pm
Quote (Lamperouge @ Jun 29 2015 09:39am)
Isn't natural progression harder as self found? As you cannot buy those 1 off cheap deals for 1 or 2 c on poe.xyz?


But thats the thing. Natural progression should be the challenge/hard. We do not have that because the game is based around the "trade market values" and nolifing. Everyone always talks about the people who lvl to 100 in a few weeks as though that is the norm and SOMETHING MUST BE DONE ABOUT EXP GAINS!! Truth is those neckbeards are going to still neckbeard no matter what it takes. They have no life. They nolife the game to be at the top. That doesnt make them good or better than anyone. That only means they are without sun/girlfriends/jobs/parents who will stop feeding them. That shouldnt be the deciding factor of how a NORMAL person plays and progresses.

I am sure GGG though making currency/crafting materials the same would put some kind of awesome twist on crafting or buying items. Like it would be some hard decision for people to say hmmmm I have this dagger I could craft or I could buy a dagger. Well guess what. Ya done fukked it up because for 99% of the players that is not a question they ever ask. Its always save save save. Thats why the system is so fukked. Those same neckbeards are hoarding/cornering the market because THEY CAN. GGG watches them like they are the shit when in fact they are the worst thing that can happen to this game. Especially when they say themselves that drops are based off trade.

Those people having what they have is fine. I dont want what they have. I dont want free t1 uniques or mirror worthy items. Hell I dont even lvl past like 85 because its a chore. A chore with no reward. I just want to be able to get to lvl 85 and know the chance of something great dropping is actually a chance. Not that oh well I only have about 50 hours in this char so yeah... nothings going to drop. Thats how it feels. Thats not how a game should feel. Shits weak.
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