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Aug 4 2022 01:12pm
Quote (Caulder10 @ 4 Aug 2022 18:59)
losing the +3 to socketed from helmet is pretty big for minion survivability and damage.
considering they are also lowering the level of summoned minions as well as lowering their life and damage
minion builds are hugely socket starved as well, to the point they almost have to have unset rings.
I think the big spit in the face was making the +2 node into unholy might.. which is only good for physical minions (which usually are going to be using brutality anyway)


+3 is not needed at all. At least not by me. Not even using a +2 wand just 6x% minion damage/5% chance on double damage and aurora shield.
The main investement that you have to do right is cluster and other jewels. Completed the atlas with no problems.
The extra content like maven elder and so one is sometimes hard but doable. Will not change next league.

Cant wait to find out the new +1 recipe will help me to complete the story line faster :)


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Quote (Meanwhile @ 4 Aug 2022 21:12)
Weird they do all this crap on summoners while it's only a tiny % of player base:

https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds

But maybe more casual players are playing, or there's another, hidden, reason.


What concern me more as the tiny playerbase is the long list of 0,0% skills that arent used at all.
And still bringing out new skills :wacko:

And casual wont reach lvl 100 and there are still enough summoners@100

This post was edited by caitlin on Aug 4 2022 01:19pm
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Aug 4 2022 01:14pm
everyone take a deep breathe though..

wait for patch notes
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Aug 4 2022 01:18pm
Quote (caitlin @ Aug 4 2022 03:12pm)
+3 is not needed at all. At least not by me. Not even using a +2 wand just 6x% minion damage/5% chance on double damage and aurora shield.
The main investement that you have to do right is cluster and other jewels. Completed the atlas with no problems.
The extra content like maven elder and so one is sometimes hard but doable. Will not change next league.

Cant wait to find out the new +1 recipe will help me to complete the story line faster :)


Only a couple summon builds can even do uber content and that is with massive investment. Don't forget how massive the charges change is for minions as well.
Completing the atlas should be relatively easy for any build.

I think part of this is the direction they want to go for poe2, because summoners with multiple 6 links are gonna be insane in poe2.
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Aug 4 2022 01:39pm
The game should have 4 leagues per year like they do, with 1 major balance patch every 1-2 years (either 1 or 2 years - 4 or 8 leagues).

This would almost be like league-ception, where leagues change, but balance, builds and core mechanics don't, allowing peace of mind during that timeframe.

Major overhauls sporadically are tiresome for the average player.

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Aug 4 2022 09:35pm
Quote (Commm @ Aug 4 2022 12:39pm)
The game should have 4 leagues per year like they do, with 1 major balance patch every 1-2 years (either 1 or 2 years - 4 or 8 leagues).

This would almost be like league-ception, where leagues change, but balance, builds and core mechanics don't, allowing peace of mind during that timeframe.

Major overhauls sporadically are tiresome for the average player.


Look what happened the one time ONE TIME they decided not to balance. Cast on death, 2 ex and every uber boss dies in an instant.

They dont want that to happen again. Trust me. They arent competent enough to make changes last 1-2 years.
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Aug 5 2022 06:44am
Quote (Sh00p @ Aug 4 2022 11:35pm)
Look what happened the one time ONE TIME they decided not to balance. Cast on death, 2 ex and every uber boss dies in an instant.

They dont want that to happen again. Trust me. They arent competent enough to make changes last 1-2 years.


Sadly I agree :(

Honestly, they release to many "balance" updates, kinda the chicken and the egg, yea? Release too many patches, shit gets broken that they didn't test, so answer is release more patch.

Remember Scourge where for, like, 10 hours, you could have 0% mana reservation of every single aura by scourging reduced mana and volls protector and getting 0 mana? Woulda been fun af and prob been 100-200 ex to get into due to rarity of scourge...instant patch to remove this. Like, 800 scourge mods, obviously those dumb fucks aren't capable of balancing, but maybe they should stop biting off more than they can chew too...just my thought :thumbsup:

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Quote (Commm @ Aug 5 2022 05:44am)
Sadly I agree :(

Honestly, they release to many "balance" updates, kinda the chicken and the egg, yea? Release too many patches, shit gets broken that they didn't test, so answer is release more patch.

Remember Scourge where for, like, 10 hours, you could have 0% mana reservation of every single aura by scourging reduced mana and volls protector and getting 0 mana? Woulda been fun af and prob been 100-200 ex to get into due to rarity of scourge...instant patch to remove this. Like, 800 scourge mods, obviously those dumb fucks aren't capable of balancing, but maybe they should stop biting off more than they can chew too...just my thought :thumbsup:


If they release only one patch every 1-2 years. People will be learning how to play cast on death in hardcore and this game will become absolute chaos. Emergency patches everywhere.
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Aug 5 2022 11:08am
Quote (Sh00p @ Aug 5 2022 12:54pm)
If they release only one patch every 1-2 years. People will be learning how to play cast on death in hardcore and this game will become absolute chaos. Emergency patches everywhere.


The current frequency of patches and level of incompetence is a big enough deterrent for me that legit, I play less than under 10 hours / league and spend $0. Used to play 10x that at least and spend $500-1000/year. I can't be the only one.

Way too many patches. I hate to say it, but D3 has been more appealing than POE for the last year or so due to the fact I don't have to spend hours of research. I'm sure there are people that like that, but they are also probably a combination of type 2 diabetics, work shit jobs, live with moms and get hard when they can recite patch notes like it's a sign of intelligence or something.

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Aug 5 2022 02:50pm
Quote (Commm @ Aug 5 2022 07:08pm)
The current frequency of patches and level of incompetence is a big enough deterrent for me that legit, I play less than under 10 hours / league and spend $0. Used to play 10x that at least and spend $500-1000/year. I can't be the only one.

Way too many patches. I hate to say it, but D3 has been more appealing than POE for the last year or so due to the fact I don't have to spend hours of research. I'm sure there are people that like that, but they are also probably a combination of type 2 diabetics, work shit jobs, live with moms and get hard when they can recite patch notes like it's a sign of intelligence or something.


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Aug 5 2022 05:30pm
Quote (Commm @ Aug 5 2022 07:08pm)
The current frequency of patches and level of incompetence is a big enough deterrent for me that legit, I play less than under 10 hours / league and spend $0. Used to play 10x that at least and spend $500-1000/year. I can't be the only one.

Way too many patches. I hate to say it, but D3 has been more appealing than POE for the last year or so due to the fact I don't have to spend hours of research. I'm sure there are people that like that, but they are also probably a combination of type 2 diabetics, work shit jobs, live with moms and get hard when they can recite patch notes like it's a sign of intelligence or something.


well i never spent money, but i did spend waaay more time in poe before :wacko: now i play around 10~20h per month which is about the time i need to make a hideout :cry: i only kill hillcock so i can chat in global 1801 while im doing the said hideout ^_^

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