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Quote (DCSS @ Dec 4 2018 10:39pm)
ye but Barrage + Volley Fire Jewelz + Chain = ezzz to spam 66 spells 666 times per second.


ofc vs multitargets, pretty ezz to proc CoC
still, more spells linked to CoC better then using support gems

when coc was good, pre nerv, not alot of skill where there, just gmp-shotgunning projectiles, that benefit from the same gmp used on the attack itself
but shotgunning nerved, and new skills released or upgraded

if use Barrage, then you use gmp, then you use projectiles spells

why not rain of arrows? i have about the same projectile hits against single target as volley linked to gmp, and plenty of alternatives for the projectilespells


old coc was pretty good to use support gems, new coc not, since cooldown 0.15, not 0.01/0.05

Quote (UkrainianProtein @ Dec 4 2018 11:32pm)
Is it possible to make a coc build on a budget?


yes, on 2 chaos budget!

since

100%Overpriced CoC build have a 66.6%proc effectivniss vs single target, and a 100% vs multitarget

if you make it 33.3%procrate vs single target, you are at 2chaos budget, and you still have the power of a 40ex build when face 3 monsters
and you have heartbound loop/triple totem, when face single target

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Quote (Tommyvv @ Dec 4 2018 07:40pm)
ofc vs multitargets, pretty ezz to proc CoC
still, more spells linked to CoC better then using support gems

when coc was good, pre nerv, not alot of skill where there, just gmp-shotgunning projectiles, that benefit from the same gmp used on the attack itself
but shotgunning nerved, and new skills released or upgraded

if use Barrage, then you use gmp, then you use projectiles spells

why not rain of arrows? i have about the same projectile hits against single target as volley linked to gmp, and plenty of alternatives for the projectilespells


old coc was pretty good to use support gems, new coc not, since cooldown 0.15, not 0.01/0.05



yes, on 2 chaos budget!

since

100%Overpriced CoC build have a 66.6%proc effectivniss vs single target, and a 100% vs multitarget

if you make it 33.3%procrate vs single target, you are at 2chaos budget, and you still have the power of a 40ex build when face 3 monsters
and you have heartbound loop/triple totem, when face single target



Any links for budget build since I can't find one unless I'm wording my search wrong
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Quote (UkrainianProtein @ Dec 5 2018 12:07am)
Any links for budget build since I can't find one unless I'm wording my search wrong


any class can play it,

i was considering Slayer or Scion: attack-leech not removed on full life (witch require some bow damage for leech, when look for a bow, where the base attack speed*crit chance=arround 15 (like quill rain), witch free up some leech gems

just so i can support heartbound-cwdt, to trigger CoC-support skill, without linking them to CoC:::: unearth-icebolt-skellie (can all be low lvl, and maintain CoC power)

and then i simply 5link
CoC-Rain of arrows-Dark pact-icenova-volatile
there is not realy a need for a 6link, can be anything, like cascade or srs, probably SrS to speed my heartbound up without needing a mass cwdt-zoo

then i go for minimum effords in crit and attack speed, probably just about 25%effective vs single target (may make a tree later on)
and then a 3linked totem vs boss, or just cwdt-single target slow skills, like spectres-cwdt-srs-zoo-brand


e/ a fast tree, may need to look at alternatives
https://poeplanner.com/AA4AAOkADhQAAHGbLV85ivDEgrCrvqduadX4ZU29Nhm0apNM_04qKjhbryPTbyePYHTxIWBAoHrvBS1Gt9NvXhPvTpOoirNXVCF2hs7BMxR1d9dW-n8rOdRv8qCfMHxRR-dUJP3_3o19I_ZNkjfU7T-NvwW1wuy0xdvnbAjximKsbIxHBtDQX2qP-vDVSVGVLgceEZZ_xpMn74j5N9fPSbFsCyL0bRkRUKcrvoqhLyycES18g-vuhTII9GpDvOrZWxslS67pAvLhY0N07eOfZ6CHdkp9naoc3I8ammqygIa0hacnn6U19WE7tgxwAAAAAAA=

400%crit chance(incl 4power charge),34%attack speed
vaal pact ghostreaver MoM es-life-mana

This post was edited by Tommyvv on Dec 4 2018 06:44pm
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I might do Coc after I get my Bv to farm enough currency
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ngamahu cyclone chieftan, and then maybe branch out into and try oros chieftan.
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Quote (Tommyvv @ Dec 4 2018 07:40pm)
ofc vs multitargets, pretty ezz to proc CoC
still, more spells linked to CoC better then using support gems

when coc was good, pre nerv, not alot of skill where there, just gmp-shotgunning projectiles, that benefit from the same gmp used on the attack itself
but shotgunning nerved, and new skills released or upgraded

if use Barrage, then you use gmp, then you use projectiles spells

why not rain of arrows? i have about the same projectile hits against single target as volley linked to gmp, and plenty of alternatives for the projectilespells


old coc was pretty good to use support gems, new coc not, since cooldown 0.15, not 0.01/0.05



yes, on 2 chaos budget!

since

100%Overpriced CoC build have a 66.6%proc effectivniss vs single target, and a 100% vs multitarget

if you make it 33.3%procrate vs single target, you are at 2chaos budget, and you still have the power of a 40ex build when face 3 monsters
and you have heartbound loop/triple totem, when face single target


I did not use gmp for my barrage wander in talisman. Volley fire was enough, on top of that I used Bladefall.
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I was about to go for arc trap but i think ascendant is more safe and i will try to keep it till 40/40
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I’m going to try a glacial cascade saboteur this league.

Never done a trap character and I really liked my cousins last league but never made one.
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Nothing long as the servers are screwed up

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