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Quote (Sh00p @ Sep 1 2018 06:00pm)
I love how you guys sit here and piss yourselves off like this.


its 35 degrees outside so i cant leave the house, i have to do something :cry:
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Sep 1 2018 10:22am
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well, i guess you were about as right about me as i was about your buying mtx :P except you tried harder :mellow:

as for the game stats: flashback started on 3rd or 4th august, as you can clearly see on the chart by spiking from 15k to 32k, so flashback kinda brought the players back. about 7~10 days later, the peaks returned to what they were before, again no surprise about anything there ^_^ ! so in short, warcraft expansion changed next to nothing, while flashback raised the player numbers by 110%

also note that you are arguing about math with an attention whore who is better at math than you :mellow: i think someone compared that to mud wrestling with a pig because after a few hours you see that you are even more annoyed, but the pig likes it :lol:


Peaks returned to way they were before 7 days later exactly when expansion came out.

Even if there werent a flashback league you are using peaks of a dead league that is being played by hardcore PoE players who play on PoE to counter argument that WoW didnt affect "Poe player base"

Considering im getting a PhD in mechanical engineering in about year and half, i seriously doubt that your math comes anywhere near mine ^^

I mean just saying this is suposed to be some hard math shows how fucking clueless you are :D

I told you before its hard for me to get annoyed about you being stupid because you dont care about being stupid and its impossible for me to care more about that then you xD

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Peaks returned to way they were before 7 days later exactly when expansion came out.

Even if there werent a flashback league you are using peaks of a dead league that is being played by PoE players who play on PoE to counter argument that WoW didnt affect "Poe player base"

Considering im getting a PhD in mechanical engineering in about year and half, i seriously doubt that your math comes anywhere near mine ^^

I mean just saying this is suposed to be some hard math shows how fucking clueless you are :D

I told you before its hard for me to get annoyed about you being stupid because you dont care about being stupid and its impossible for me to care more about that then you xD


yeah thats true, except the peaks returned slowly and gradually, which would indicate that nothing "outside" of poe influenced them :wacko: if it did, you would expect a drop, yet there was no drop really, just gradual fall. here it is:



peak 1 was flashback start, peaks 2, 3 and 4 were just weekends when people play more (you can see those throughout the chart). there was no significant fall due to WoW expansion, i mean weekends influenced the game players more than WoW so theres that <_<

congratulations on engineering degree, but maybe then the problem isnt that you dont know math, but that you do and just see what you want to see :blush: ! poe is a dying game, you can try to defend it all you want but math is against you :mellow:
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yeah thats true, except the peaks returned slowly and gradually, which would indicate that nothing "outside" of poe influenced them :wacko: if it did, you would expect a drop, yet there was no drop really, just gradual fall. here it is:

http://i66.tinypic.com/2s96178.jpg

peak 1 was flashback start, peaks 2, 3 and 4 were just weekends when people play more (you can see those throughout the chart). there was no significant fall due to WoW expansion, i mean weekends influenced the game players more than WoW so theres that <_<

congratulations on engineering degree, but maybe then the problem isnt that you dont know math, but that you do and just see what you want to see :blush: ! poe is a dying game, you can try to defend it all you want but math is against you :mellow:


It didnt affect? So peak 1 how many ppl played it , did u compare it to previous flashbk league, most of ppl that played race went in there to lvl to 35 to get free box, and quit cuz they didnt want to burn out for WoW, and i speak this from personal experience.


In your last thread you pointed out peak that was Expansion release from last year and ignored the rest of graph that showed growth.

If any1 is seeing what he wants its you :D

As i said even if they wasnt a flashbk league, you are using a part of graph that shows a dead part of league where only PoE hardcore players play it (and you can safely assume that 99% of these do not play wow) to show how drop of player base peak is not affected by WoW. And you compare this to a league day1.

Pls use brain more.

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It didnt affect? So peak 1 how many ppl played it , did u compare it to previous flashbk league, most of ppl that played race went in there to lvl to 35 to get free box, and quit cuz they didnt want to burn out for WoW, and i speak this from personal experience.


In your last thread you pointed out peak that was Expansion release from last year and ignored the rest of graph that showed growth.

If any1 is seeing what he wants its you :D

As i said even if they wasnt a flashbk league, you are using a part of graph that shows a dead part of league where only PoE hardcore players play it (and you can safely assume that 99% of these do not play wow) to show how drop of player base peak is not affected by WoW. And you compare this to a league day1.

Pls use brain more.


about that expansion last year, yes i did say that and well i...might have used an outlier, so mistakes were made :cry: ! not a serious mistake tbh, but okay, wasnt correct math i agree. but now there are no mistakes really, i correctly guessed a peak fall that was rather significant, 20k on steam alone. so if you want to prove anything, you are gonna have to do better than "WoW expansion is to blame" <_<
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about that expansion last year, yes i did say that and well i...might have used an outlier, so mistakes were made :cry: ! not a serious mistake tbh, but okay, wasnt correct math i agree. but now there are no mistakes really, i correctly guessed a peak fall that was rather significant, 20k on steam alone. so if you want to prove anything, you are gonna have to do better than "WoW expansion is to blame" <_<


I don't have to prove anything if you really believe that is not a factor you are in selective denial, which im pretty sure you know you are urself.

You didnt predict shit nor are you able to comprehend situation to form any prediction at all.

And yes using last year expansion is a massive mistake because it shows you don't even know how to THINK properly or are remotely connected to thinking at all, it has nothing to do with math (which again i dont know why you even said that, literally has NOTHING to do with math only logic, i guess you have none -seriously looking at picture with no numbers on it has nothing to do with math believe me). And saying wow didnt affect player base on day1 of league because last month there was no big loss of players online when expansion came out shows it again.

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I don't have to prove anything if you really believe that is not a factor you are in selective denial, which im pretty sure you know you are urself.

You didnt predict shit nor are you able to comprehend situation to form any prediction at all.

And yes using last year expansion is a massive mistake because it shows you don't even know how to THINK properly or are remotely connected to thinking at all, it has nothing to do with math (which again i dont know why you even said that, literally has NOTHING to do with math only logic, i guess you have none -seriously looking at picture with no numbers on it has nothing to do with math believe me). And saying wow didnt affect player base on day1 of league because last month there was no big loss of players online when expansion came out shows it again.


well i have to disagree there :blush: ! in that thread i said that 98k was the peak and that after that the game started to stagnate. that turned out to be true, but it might have been an outlier (note the *MIGHT HAVE*, i dont think it was an outlier but a valid value, it was high because of the biggest expansion ever, but not by chance), and then followed by two lower played leagues (abyss and bestiary), and then something of a peak with incursion, showing a steady increase for 3 leagues. so basically while you are saying that harbinger was an outlier, im saying that incursion was the one that was an outlier, probably due to aggressive campaign by the chinese that bought poe. and note that neither of the two of us had any evidence of the claims, i thought poe was dying based on pure intuition :blush:

and while i said this based on intuition as well, it is a difference of 20k on first day on steam alone, which is a fall that i honestly didnt expect to be that big :wacko: 20k isnt intuition anymore, it is a proof that something is horribly wrong when it comes to poe :wacko:
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well i have to disagree there :blush: ! in that thread i said that 98k was the peak and that after that the game started to stagnate. that turned out to be true, but it might have been an outlier (note the *MIGHT HAVE*, i dont think it was an outlier but a valid value, it was high because of the biggest expansion ever, but not by chance), and then followed by two lower played leagues (abyss and bestiary), and then something of a peak with incursion, showing a steady increase for 3 leagues. so basically while you are saying that harbinger was an outlier, im saying that incursion was the one that was an outlier, probably due to aggressive campaign by the chinese that bought poe. and note that neither of the two of us had any evidence of the claims, i thought poe was dying based on pure intuition :blush:

and while i said this based on intuition as well, it is a difference of 20k on first day on steam alone, which is a fall that i honestly didnt expect to be that big :wacko: 20k isnt intuition anymore, it is a proof that something is horribly wrong when it comes to poe :wacko:


the outlier is not 1 league its entire life of the game, as i said peak doesnt mean jack shit you are too thin to understand that.

Thats why you picked expansion release in a line thats long years.

Again you don't know how to think or what to make of things you see, and lets say this drop in players is not for other factors beside game itself, it still doesnt mean anything maybe wait few leagues and your dreams will come true , your life goal of showing a graph where PoE is dying.

Or you could be not retarded and do smth else in ur life, thats just a random thought.
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the outlier is not 1 league its entire life of the game, as i said peak doesnt mean jack shit you are too thin to understand that.

Thats why you picked expansion release in a line thats long years.

Again you don't know how to think or what to make of things you see, and lets say this drop in players is not for other factors beside game itself, it still doesnt mean anything maybe wait few leagues and your dreams will come true , your life goal of showing a graph where PoE is dying.

Or you could be not retarded and do smth else in ur life, thats just a random thought.


please keep it civil :blush: ! if you have no arguments its okay, you dont have them because you are trying to defend something that cant be defended :blush: like islam apologists! whenever you point out something thats borderline retarded they start yelling and getting mad :mellow:

right now i have proof for what i said and you dont, if you think otherwise, feel free to wait for the next league and prove me wrong :blush:

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yeah :blush: ! why get mad over a simple discussion :unsure: ?
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