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Mar 2 2016 11:49am
Acquisition is still fucking better.

People with 100+ Tabs like me, need apps like that to find items.

For people with less tabs, its STILL fucking better. The search option alone helps. So is being able to set up your shop while offline.
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Mar 2 2016 11:51am
Quote (Snyft @ Mar 2 2016 12:43pm)
well i think "convenience" is p2w because it gives you more speed in playing. but my opinion doesnt matter at all! if we just had a valid statistical sample, math would show the wisdom that neither of us can see alone :blush: !

unfortunately until i have a valid statistical sample of at least 30 non-payers, i wont even do the math :(


you admit yourself that you probably won't take this poll seriously since you consider a large amount of votes a possible troll so I am not understanding the purpose of this


you don't need math to figure out that you're misusing the phrase "pay to win" when no one can point out a single "win" from buying anything on this game


there is no purpose to doing any math to any of this until you one, get a large enough sample size (which will provide no valid information besides the amount of jspers misconception of what pay to win actually is)
and two figure out what exactly you are "winning" at. there is no real point to having any sort of poll at all if no one can state what exactly is "p2w" about the game; and paying for convenience is not an advantage at all especially when there are other sources available that do the job better than what you are paying for

This post was edited by Madi on Mar 2 2016 11:55am
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Mar 2 2016 11:54am
Quote (MindC0ntr0l. @ Mar 2 2016 07:47pm)
6 people out of 48 think its p2w, no need for more statistics. i have few premium tabs and im still gonna use acquisition, pay 2 lose?


see, thats a big statistical error there :( if only 10 people put no money into the game, that part of the sample is considered not valid, and you cant conclude anything out of it, without a relatively large chance of mistake :wacko: thats why the percentages i did a few posts ago, although looking very powerful, dont mean shit from the statistical point of view because the sample doesnt have appropriate size!

you on the other hand made a much bigger statistical error, you didnt take a random sample and anything done from that viewpoint is doomed to fail right from the start. like asking 50 tobacco company CEO's if they are okay with people smoking :angry:

if you need any additional help with statistics, feel free to pm me :mellow:
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Mar 2 2016 11:59am
Quote (Madi @ Mar 2 2016 07:51pm)
you admit yourself that you probably won't take this poll seriously since you consider a large amount of votes a possible troll so I am not understanding the purpose of this


you don't need math to figure out that you're misusing the phrase "pay to win" when no one can point out a single "win" from paying anything on this game


there is no purpose to doing any math to any of this until you one, get a large enough sample size (which will provide no valid information besides the amount of jspers misconception of what pay to win actually is)
and two figure out what exactly you are "winning" at. there is no real point to having any sort of poll at all if no one can state what exactly is "p2w" about the game; and paying for convenience is not an advantage at all especially when there are other sources available that do the job better than what you are paying for


yes, this poll cant be taken seriously because of a variety of reasons, sample size being the most important. but i wanted to give people the general idea that paying for the game features literally shifts your judgement :wacko: and even without statistical proof, this is something that people must have in mind before bashing each other :blush: !
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Mar 2 2016 11:59am
Stay golden, ponyboy.
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Quote (Ontarian @ Mar 2 2016 07:59pm)
Stay golden, ponyboy.


never :cry: ! i shall remain pink :angry:
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Mar 2 2016 12:01pm
Games super pay to win

Ive made over 200 thousand real dollars

Have 100 tabs and almost every mtx

Im always finding those guchi items
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Mar 2 2016 12:03pm
Quote (Snyft @ Mar 2 2016 12:59pm)
yes, this poll cant be taken seriously because of a variety of reasons, sample size being the most important. but i wanted to give people the general idea that paying for the game features literally shifts your judgement :wacko: and even without statistical proof, this is something that people must have in mind before bashing each other :blush: !


this poll does not provide that, in order for you to actually show that paying for features shifts your judgement you'd have to have data from a previous survey from a large group of players who have not dumped any money into this game, then later down the road do another poll on the same group of people after they started dumping money into the game to see if their opinions have shifted


this poll does not provide any actual useful information besides what the majority on jsp views are on the game CURRENTLY with nothing to look back on and compare to.

you could do this same exact survey 6 months from now and it still would tell you nothing because you're not polling the same group of people


your logic is terribly flawed
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Mar 2 2016 12:14pm
Quote (Madi @ Mar 2 2016 08:03pm)
this poll does not provide that, in order for you to actually show that paying for features shifts your judgement you'd have to have data from a previous survey from a large group of players who have not dumped any money into this game, then later down the road do another poll on the same group of people after they started dumping money into the game to see if their opinions have shifted


this poll does not provide any actual useful information besides what the majority on jsp views are on the game CURRENTLY with nothing to look back on and compare to.

you could do this same exact survey 6 months from now and it still would tell you nothing because you're not polling the same group of people


your logic is terribly flawed


first of all, notice that i have an adorable pony as avatar, which means that no matter how much you are trying to attack me, i will try to help :blush: ! sooo:

1) this poll wasnt even intended to provide information! it was intended to provide an idea that would help people understand each other! having people bashing each other even more was far from what i had planned :(
2) with a valid sample, i wouldnt need to do the wait that people actually put money into the game, because its simply not needed. simplest solution is always the best!
3) your idea of sampling would be even wrong in this case, because a high percentage would be like "hey, i see what they are trying! im gonna give a different answer on purpose, ha ha"
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Mar 2 2016 12:14pm
Quote (Madi @ Mar 2 2016 01:03pm)
this poll does not provide that, in order for you to actually show that paying for features shifts your judgement you'd have to have data from a previous survey from a large group of players who have not dumped any money into this game, then later down the road do another poll on the same group of people after they started dumping money into the game to see if their opinions have shifted


this poll does not provide any actual useful information besides what the majority on jsp views are on the game CURRENTLY with nothing to look back on and compare to.

you could do this same exact survey 6 months from now and it still would tell you nothing because you're not polling the same group of people


your logic is terribly flawed


This is the same guy taht bitches about every strong item in this game because he can't afford them. Just ignore and move on.
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