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Aug 1 2022 09:01am
Quote (spokoluzik1989 @ Jul 31 2022 08:14pm)
Anyway, feedback I got isn't encouraging to try.


Ignore the bitter replies - people who claim that the game is boring already played addictingly for 5000 hours and attempt to do mental gymnastics to justify the fact that they are getting tired of it. As a D2 vet you will absolutely enjoy the character and item customization that PoE has. It has plenty of endgame content including fun bosses, progression in different types of content with infinite depth, tower defense, etc. You can play 10k hours and never play the same character twice. Niche items for a specific build can always be improved with fun mechanics. It was the true "diablo 3" for me, and I have played thousands of hours by now.
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Quote (darkerfire @ Aug 1 2022 05:01pm)
Ignore the bitter replies - people who claim that the game is boring already played addictingly for 5000 hours and attempt to do mental gymnastics to justify the fact that they are getting tired of it. As a D2 vet you will absolutely enjoy the character and item customization that PoE has. It has plenty of endgame content including fun bosses, progression in different types of content with infinite depth, tower defense, etc. You can play 10k hours and never play the same character twice. Niche items for a specific build can always be improved with fun mechanics. It was the true "diablo 3" for me, and I have played thousands of hours by now.


im not bitter because i dont give a shit about poe, im just honest :wacko: and im not saying that you guys arent or that im better than you, but i do have an advantage of not having spent any money on poe, which makes me immune to sunken cost fallacy :mellow: and yes i do realize thats also a disadvantage because game cant really be played normally with no money spent, but poe wasnt boring to me back in 2015 and i didnt have tabs then either. something changed to the worse, at least in my opinion :unsure:
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Aug 1 2022 09:40am
Quote (spokoluzik1989 @ Jul 31 2022 12:00pm)
Hi there, old D2 player here.



I've never played PoE but considering that, what should I know about ?

What mode and build is recommended for beginner ?

I see there's way more FG involved, is that just endgame content ? ( And why ppl get banned for trading, what's wrong with it ?, You can't trade unless you have high level ? )


Cheers


Just start playing and go from there.
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Aug 1 2022 11:18am
Quote (Snyft2 @ Aug 1 2022 11:30am)
i do have an advantage of not having spent any money on poe, which makes me immune to sunken cost fallacy :mellow:


You'll end up spending the cost of a triple A game for all stashes, except you're allowed to try and play it without being able to sell your items first. It's the opposite of sunken cost fallacy, it's no cost until you decide you actually like the game.

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im not bitter because i dont give a shit about poe


yet you give a shit enough to spend time in the sub and criticize the game, so what I said still hold. What I'm implying is that people are so passionate about the game is that even if they don't play they still stick on reddit and complain about how bad the game is because they've burned themselves out. That's how good the game is
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Aug 1 2022 01:02pm
Better to throw time in a game like the witcher 3, fallout 4, or Cyberpunk 2077, if you didn't, would clearly deliver a better experience in the long run and the spent time stays under control.
You also have Disco Elysium, Borderlands(2 & sequel), skyrim, vampyr, hitman 3, last 2 Deus Ex series, and some kind of excellent spent time: Thronebreaker, with cards, really amazing.
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Quote (Caulder10 @ 1 Aug 2022 02:35)
could be, but d2 sucks, blizzard sucks.

if you want a game PoE is it. if you want to try to make fg then prob stick with d2 for ez fg


This all the way.
If you want to make fg stick to d2.

If you want to discover a really good game and having fun instead of making money. play poe.
Dont use fg and dont listen to negative feedback here if you want to keep youre account.
The community here is like 0,5% from what you can find on GGG's own site and other sources on internet that aren't involved in virtual money.
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Quote (darkerfire @ Aug 1 2022 07:18pm)
yet you give a shit enough to spend time in the sub and criticize the game, so what I said still hold. What I'm implying is that people are so passionate about the game is that even if they don't play they still stick on reddit and complain about how bad the game is because they've burned themselves out. That's how good the game is


its not the game i care about, its my jsp brothers :blush: i dont complain about this on reddit, or poe forums, or anywhere else really, because i simply dont care about the game :zzz: i do wish for poe to fail because i dont like when bad people get rich, but i can deal with that. what upsets me is when people from here fall for the pr, because we used to be a masterrace compared to the non jspers. and now most of you let ggg literally blackmail you into "admitting your mistakes" (even though its not a mistake because their trade system sucks and its not only our moral right, but also our obligation to shit on that trade system by using jsp <_< ) by holding you to your balls because you invested money you dont wanna lose into something you dont own :wacko: if they fixed their trade system (which they purposefully dont want to do as it would lower the time spent in game, chris talked about this), we wouldnt need to use jsp. personally, if i get caught, i will just rub it into their face and taunt them because they cant do shit to me. what are they gonna do? i use a vpn and have more virtual machines than a ggg mod has mental disorders :mellow:

also i believe people are passionate about poe for the same reason they are passionate about star citizen, and it has to do more with business model than the game itself, and the only thing people are passionate about is justifying their spent money to themselves. the passion you are talking about feels very fake to me :(

also my theory is that burnout happens not because the game is so good that people just have to play it. instead, it happens because people are forced into a competitive surrounding where they HAVE TO play in order to get everything they wanted (due to competition or fomo), not because they actually enjoy playing. yes its just a theory but im very intuitive and i notice that kind of stuff :wacko: what im trying to say is, the whole poe experience feels astroturfed and ive had my share of good games where people played for the genuine fun factor :cry: for example the games meanwhile mentioned :drool: you dont get burned out with those. my guess is that happens because if you arent enjoying it anymore, you just quit and return eventually. you cant do that with poe because you are forced to play even after you started to not enjoy it anymore, which then at one point snowballs into wanting to throw up at the very mention of poe; think of it as running with a tendon rupture or something

sorry about the wall of text but tldr is, jspers have to be better than this shit. we need to be 2 steps ahead, not held by the balls <_<

This post was edited by Snyft2 on Aug 1 2022 03:11pm
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snyft is delusional, riddled with mental issues and his opinions are as irrelevant as it gets. he doesn't even know what he's talking about. i doubt he ever played poe for more than few hours, actually. to claim game was better in 2015 or whatever is just a flat out lie that serves no purpose.

This post was edited by Proxi on Aug 1 2022 06:23pm
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snyft is delusional, riddled with mental issues and his opinions are as irrelevant as it gets. he doesn't even know what he's talking about. i doubt he ever played poe for more than few hours, actually. to claim game was better in 2015 or whatever is just a flat out lie that serves no purpose.


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Aug 1 2022 06:58pm
Quote (Snyft2 @ Aug 1 2022 05:10pm)
if they fixed their trade system (which they purposefully dont want to do as it would lower the time spent in game, chris talked about this), we wouldnt need to use jsp.

I would still, because I enjoy selling stuff I have for jsp points. I rarely ever bought anything and if I did, I use FG like a loan that I have to repay.
Quote (Snyft2 @ Aug 1 2022 05:10pm)
also i believe people are passionate about poe for the same reason they are passionate about star citizen, and it has to do more with business model than the game itself, and the only thing people are passionate about is justifying their spent money to themselves.

I don't know why you say that. You don't have to spend more than 60$ on the game to get all the stashes. I've bought 60$ games that I have never played.

Quote (Snyft2 @ Aug 1 2022 05:10pm)
also my theory is that burnout happens not because the game is so good that people just have to play it. instead, it happens because people are forced into a competitive surrounding where they HAVE TO play in order to get everything they wanted (due to competition or fomo)
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you cant do that with poe because you are forced to play even after you started to not enjoy it anymore, which then at one point snowballs into wanting to throw up at the very mention of poe; think of it as running with a tendon rupture or something

I agree somewhat, but that is what the game is about. It's about trying to race to get rich in the start of the season, build your character and exploit the new mechanics until they feel old and you need new ones to get motivated. I love this and I love getting dragged by this hype every 3 months. I am genuinely excited like I was for christmas or my birthday as a kid. People get burned out because they play too much and then they want to feel the hype but don't - they need a break and that's it. I don't play 3 months but just like 1 month and then move on to something else so I never get bored.

This post was edited by darkerfire on Aug 1 2022 06:59pm
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