affixs in any mp are a joke, lol game is dumbed down, can stand in molten, plague, desc, arcane and not die

glad to see you ride blizz's nuts and think d3 is even skill based, brb AH brb nerfed inferno, brb you never killed diablo pre-patch

This post was edited by kragujevac on May 20 2013 06:04pm

very few classes/builds can do that - and if you can it's only mid-leech or some crappy tank build- not sure when you played last but it's changed a lot (plague got mega buffed)

all im saying is it's more skill based this this game

combat in d3 feels responsive at least

id admit though that it's worse than I anticipated after playing d2

getting much much better per patch however (pub match maker, and new itemization next patch) and expac should be announce soon
POE:

all classes substantially the same past 70-80

ugly picture - looks like game from 90s

dueling is totally 100% trash

lots errors - hows a ugly game run so badly in this day and age

indefinite beta

shitty trade system

keystones a let down

joke passive tree might as well be called : find the health nodes, for nyone playing hc

poe patches, there's so many of them but...omg added 2 items and 1 bad gem gfg

poe's hemorrhaging players (like me: it's fun for a few mos then.....)

player base so cool b/c they play some cheap indy game that has 1/10 players as d3

d3 has lost almost the entire playerbase that started at launch, its a terrible game, every build is the same, nothing in the game is challenging, mp10 is a joke, ubers and hellfires were terrible content,

in poe you can actually customize builds, trading is what its supposed to be instead of scrolling through AH all day for cheap gg items, pvp in d3 is worse than poe pvp, random skillshotting, paragon levels should have been in the game but it took the complaining of most of the playerbase for them to implement this crutch endgame content, d3 graphics are as shit as poe graphics, zoom in once in a while, oh duping as well which raped the already shit economy of d3

yeh that's why im headed back though they at least are making good changes their players mostly want (they still got a mil players increasing lately also)

i hated it b/c it had 0 community had to find people to play with on jsp almost exclusively but match maker makes it sweet

poe still has a few unique gems in their repertoire though - gem system is cool (i prefer the passive tree was an active tree and gems were passives or mods though) but the race feature is freakin awesome

once d3 makes a legit ladder type deal it's gonna be awesome imo though (if ever...)

they have made it easier but mp10 is still much harder than pre-nerf inferno in some respects (req's shit ton more dps but you dont get gibbed quite as easy as old pre-nerf)

as to some of the stuff you brought up: there are tons of builds - idk what to say but disagree - id prefer they were locked in though i dont like to be able to switch mid game/ but i can see its appeal - (same for picture....poe looks grainy as shit to me, not fluid, combat effects are dull)
im in the middle ground on the ah, i hate full scale ah like d3 but...trade spamming is just worthless gotta be something better in b/w. i dont think ive ever seen1 person ever ever ever looking for a duel ever! and it's a 1 shot fest from what little ive seen - at least end game d3 dueling can be long matches (sometimes stalemate) -

nyways i didnt mean to be that guy on other games thread like this, im out - gl

This post was edited by mrpopos10 on May 20 2013 07:50pm

D3 would of been fine if it kept some the same aspect of D2 in it.

8 Players

Public listed games for questing/lvling/runs/pvp/trades/ect... instead of just clicking a button and joining random junk.
(( Chat is just a spam on nonsense ))

Skill Tree

No Auction House....this really kills the player to player interaction with having one.


Just my 2 cents

that's not harder than pre-nerf...it just makes it more of a gear check


and guess why? because they want people to use the RMAH

This post was edited by skinnytroll on May 20 2013 10:18pm

PoE players has decreased significantly, but that is because the pvp is not good yet.
PvP is what brings players, and GGG themselves said it is coming..When the good pvp is here, the people will return.

Game is still in open beta, people do come back.

i cried, very true

This post was edited by kingdiablo on May 20 2013 11:11pm

If my opinion matters any (which i guess it shouldn't - but atleast i am all about ARPGS and played d2 since 2002~ and d3 since release) path of exile beats diablo 3 for me on ALL levels except a very select few.
The only things I can think of is that the action/mobslaying is more polished in d3. Most likely due the producers past history in Console games (think about it, the battles in d3 are a little like consolish~) and the obvious advantage of being a Multi billion dollar company. The gameplay is really smooth and sometimes a little challenging. This is my experience from the Witch doctor anyhow which i played 90-95% of my 750~h
And then there is the physics engine, the response when u make actions and the overall stability.


But from my perspecitve these are good things that you can wish for after the basic requirements for an ARPG are close to perfected.
Im talking about the character progression, the importance of planning your build (poe took a great direction with their passive point tree, where as d3 doesn't even have skill progression worth mentioning.
Im also talking about the itemization - I been over this so many times I cant be arsed anymore but to most people it's obvious that PoE has a deep item system that takes a fat dump on diablo 3's badly thought out, dumbed down, flat out retarded itemization.



today I would rate PoE 7,5/10, with the budget, stability, more polished end game it would be a 8,5-9/10.
Diablo 3 would score like 4-5/10



take PoE philosophy and talent in the crew, slap blizzard logo and givem the same budget and call it diablo 3 - im sure d3 would've been praised as a worthy sequel



edit on topic of which game requires more skill... Neither requires alot, just a little experience, I could agree diablo 3 requires a little more skill. But on hardcore it's easier to stay alive on d3, u just have to have the basic skill required and reach "checkpoints" in stats on any named build i'd say. PoE there's alot more mobs that will cause you to panic for sure.

This post was edited by SpAz. on May 21 2013 07:21am

I don't have a lot of D3 experience, but in comparing this to D2 it did pretty much everything right. I would rate the hardcore difficulty on this game as more difficult than D2HC. It's very easy to get two shot if you don't know how the next difficulties will treat you. Not that the same can't happen in D2. Just feels like this one is more difficult. I go melee all the time so your opinions may vary!