you said lab deathless like thats a feat

is when you've farmed over 1k labs, all deathless but you're right for most here that's not a huge thing

Packsize + quant...very likely. I had up to 50% packsize. I'm sure some of your maps are 15%. Some of my maps were 170% quant. It compounds with things like sextants. I see people whine all the time about doctor drops...but I've never had a problem running it my way...maybe take a new approach? I had a whole system for organizing my vaaled maps to make sure my best maps were run with my best sextants etc. If i got breach sextant etc I would run my better maps. I typically had to make 2+ trips due to the sheer amount of 6s etc.

Also, i didn't necessarily always reroll sextants, I would take anything that at least added density...sometimes I would keep the crappier ones even if I had some bad maps I wanted to get out (like i vaaled them and they stayed at like 17% pack size).

TL:DR packsize+quant+sextants = exponential returns

I even used frags for the hell of it when I had godtier sextant+map combos..but RNG is RNG and 600 maps is realistically a small sample size. I think normal odds would put you between 0 and 1 for how you roll your maps anyway.

I also would pingpong shaper/elder when I could if it didn't waste too much time, or if I wanted to clear out some of the t9 relics that I got from vaaling

This post was edited by Commm on Jan 10 2019 12:07pm

this, i think, goes to show most of the community isn't running maps even close to best possible returns, they are just running maps to run maps.

if people would actually put 100% effort into their maps to make each and every map as good as possible like you commm, we would never have any bad players or noobs or people complaining about bad drops

solid map running advice in make every map as good as you can afford to

Honestly chaining t16s and respawning uber elder super quickly is way better.

How many maps does it take for elder influence to respawn after killing Uber elder. I feel like it takes too long

10-20 maps so like 30-60 minutes ish, assuming 3 minute map clears

defintely less

Too fast, theres a balance issue regarding it, i would say it varies about ~5 to ~10 without including the 4 & 4 guardians.
The only rule is to never do any low maps, just keep doing 15+.




I'm not in a hurry since i do most of my currency by screwing others players and kids in trade, exactly like Chris Wilson wanted, but even without rushing the total value of jewels & bases sold is close or equal to HH value.

NB: also had one on friend list who was rushing HH card map like crazy, made like 1000 maps and dropped shit, left the game for good, disgusted.


@OP and all doing this: quit this crap immediately.

Speaking of I bought an item for 40c today and then sold it for 6ex a couple hours later lel