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Apr 8 2020 12:47pm
(3.2) [Lighty] 2H RT Cyclone: Dope for Beast League & Labâ„¢
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1302337
Ultimate Cyclone Slayer Passive Skill Tree and Gem Links
https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/ultimate-cyclone-slayer-passive-skill-tree-and-gem-links

Linked 2 guides, ( i understand one is from 3.2, but fallowed that guide for couple years on standard)

Normally I play a marauder , but this league i thought it would be best to choose new class, and make a slayer for the no reflect.
with that in mind, which of these 2 guides/passives tree's would be the best for this new league?

res cap, 4.7k hp ( using -7 mana ring to avoid blood magic/mana issues ) dps 26k ( but once i get 6 link atziri's and fix gems ill be at roughly 110k)
the issue i noticed is that 37% armor and 12% evasion i just don't think is enough.
I do t1-3 maps with no problem, but t4+ maps , im getting 1-2 shotted by a single white/blue mob, especially with bosses so i have been skipping them .

I know that life leech will get a little better with a new weapon of higher damage, so that will help a little to prevent some of the 2 shot deaths.

Is a 6 Link atziri disfavour or 6 link starforge a better weapon choice? is there a huge difference?
I only ask because its 6exalts vs 14 exalts for starforge

also do you guys think my defenses are reasonable? what else should i be looking for on gear that might help me be a bit more defensive?
already running Cast when dmg taken lvl5 , with molten shell, duration, immortal call.
Priority was life/regen/resist caps
Do i need stun/block recovery? or anything else?

If you have other builds/guides for me to check out, or personal builds ect
Any honest help would be greatly appreciated, I have been a noob for too long, and want to be a better/smarter player.

This post was edited by conetopia on Apr 8 2020 12:52pm
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Apr 8 2020 07:53pm
Well the 3.2 guide is surely outdated. After looking at them for 2 seconds I can tell the other is already better.

Which build are you actually following? We cant see what your current progress is from the info you've told us.

Get an Atziris Disfavour then get a kaoms heart.

Do you run fortify in your cyclone setup?

Not sure what your armor is at but maybe you need to get steelskin instead of molten shell. Assuming your armor is low.

Cant really say much more without knowing where you're at currently. It'll just be generic advice.
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Apr 9 2020 12:24am
Quote (Ramy @ 8 Apr 2020 20:53)
Well the 3.2 guide is surely outdated. After looking at them for 2 seconds I can tell the other is already better.
Which build are you actually following? We cant see what your current progress is from the info you've told us.
Get an Atziris Disfavour then get a kaoms heart.
Do you run fortify in your cyclone setup?
Not sure what your armor is at but maybe you need to get steelskin instead of molten shell. Assuming your armor is low.
Cant really say much more without knowing where you're at currently. It'll just be generic advice.


I have been fallowing the Lighty 2 Hand 3.2 build for years.
I haven't really modified my character as it was a standard league build, so I haven't really paid attention to what i had socketed.
Was recently hacked a few months ago , and was robbed of all my shit, and characters deleted.
Started the new league 100% fresh.

I know its probably about time that I redo the build and/or update it to something else/newer.
Currently did /passives , completed all those, and i'm at lvl 87 , so i grabbed all the nodes from the Lighty build Tree.
I got all the recommended uniques ( 5 link atziri's ) , kaoms heart, deveto's helm, carnage heart, Praxis ring for -mana-cost , and yellow gloves/belt/boots ,1ring res.

was going to get a 6 link atziri's but everyone has been telling me that starforge is better...
But i think thats only better for solo play , because in a party you won't need that life boost as much, and you won't get the elemental damages
from party buff aura's. Its probably a good idea to solo play this league, and complete the atlas and enjoy the game. ( servers been congested for laggy big party's last few days anyways )

Armor is 5,050 @ 34% reduction , but thats going to increase to 6,000 shortly.
Slayer = no phs reflect, and starforge = no ele reflect :) so another reason its really good for solo-ing lol.
Don't have to worry about map mods ect.

I got my Hp up to 5,300 ... ( been playing on california server as texas/washington are congested )
not being 1-2 shotted anymore, its more like 3-4 shotted now...

so many choices, so many ways of doing things... ahhhhhhh my head hurts lol.

This post was edited by conetopia on Apr 9 2020 12:28am
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Quote (conetopia @ Apr 9 2020 08:24am)
I have been fallowing the Lighty 2 Hand 3.2 build for years.
I haven't really modified my character as it was a standard league build, so I haven't really paid attention to what i had socketed.
Was recently hacked a few months ago , and was robbed of all my shit, and characters deleted.
Started the new league 100% fresh.

I know its probably about time that I redo the build and/or update it to something else/newer.
Currently did /passives , completed all those, and i'm at lvl 87 , so i grabbed all the nodes from the Lighty build Tree.
I got all the recommended uniques ( 5 link atziri's ) , kaoms heart, deveto's helm, carnage heart, Praxis ring for -mana-cost , and yellow gloves/belt/boots ,1ring res.

was going to get a 6 link atziri's but everyone has been telling me that starforge is better...
But i think thats only better for solo play , because in a party you won't need that life boost as much, and you won't get the elemental damages
from party buff aura's. Its probably a good idea to solo play this league, and complete the atlas and enjoy the game. ( servers been congested for laggy big party's last few days anyways )

Armor is 5,050 @ 34% reduction , but thats going to increase to 6,000 shortly.
Slayer = no phs reflect, and starforge = no ele reflect :) so another reason its really good for solo-ing lol.
Don't have to worry about map mods ect.

I got my Hp up to 5,300 ... ( been playing on california server as texas/washington are congested )
not being 1-2 shotted anymore, its more like 3-4 shotted now...

so many choices, so many ways of doing things... ahhhhhhh my head hurts lol.


fuk tl;dr what is this wall of text?!

follow guides 3.10 prefixed, maybe 3.9

following 3.2 guides in in PoE ....

STUPID AS FUCK if you are remotely aware of how this game progresses

holy SHIT WTF ?!
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Quote (conetopia @ Apr 9 2020 02:24am)
I have been fallowing the Lighty 2 Hand 3.2 build for years.
I haven't really modified my character as it was a standard league build, so I haven't really paid attention to what i had socketed.
Was recently hacked a few months ago , and was robbed of all my shit, and characters deleted.
Started the new league 100% fresh.

I know its probably about time that I redo the build and/or update it to something else/newer.
Currently did /passives , completed all those, and i'm at lvl 87 , so i grabbed all the nodes from the Lighty build Tree.
I got all the recommended uniques ( 5 link atziri's ) , kaoms heart, deveto's helm, carnage heart, Praxis ring for -mana-cost , and yellow gloves/belt/boots ,1ring res.

was going to get a 6 link atziri's but everyone has been telling me that starforge is better...
But i think thats only better for solo play , because in a party you won't need that life boost as much, and you won't get the elemental damages
from party buff aura's. Its probably a good idea to solo play this league, and complete the atlas and enjoy the game. ( servers been congested for laggy big party's last few days anyways )

Armor is 5,050 @ 34% reduction , but thats going to increase to 6,000 shortly.
Slayer = no phs reflect, and starforge = no ele reflect :) so another reason its really good for solo-ing lol.
Don't have to worry about map mods ect.

I got my Hp up to 5,300 ... ( been playing on california server as texas/washington are congested )
not being 1-2 shotted anymore, its more like 3-4 shotted now...

so many choices, so many ways of doing things... ahhhhhhh my head hurts lol.


so many things to say... where do I start...

you're having trouble with T4+ maps with your current build at 5,300HP... I'm not going to go through the 3.2 build guide and see what's so bad with it but if you're following it and struggling with T4 maps, well, there's your answer...

so in short scratch your entire build, follow the other build guide you linked

getting a 6link starforge is better but you sounded like you couldnt afford one, also you will need to change your whole tree, atziri's is fine... you should be able to use it and do t16 maps with no problem
your weapon is not the big issue here (except for the 5link part... that's an issue... but even then 5links shouldn't struggle in T4 maps)

the reason I asked about your armor is because you need to know your armor to determine if you're better off using Molten Shell or Steelskin
you can read both gems and figure out which one is better for you (I don't agree with the level 5 Cast When Dmg Taken though... too low level)
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Molten_Shell
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Steelskin


also I asked about fortify and you didn't answer. Use fortify.
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Apr 9 2020 11:59pm
Downloaded path of building.
Grabbed common nodes from both builds ( with starforge /koam heart in mind )

Kept buying T1-4 maps in bulk @ 3:1Chaos , and flipped them for 1 chaos each.
did this for an entire 2 days , and eventually could afford...
StarForge 497/8/99 6 link, for 13.5ex
13.5ex > 1,755 chaos > t1-4 maps and other small prophecy flips ect.

4 Linked
cast when dmg taken, increased duration,immortal call, molten shell
2 linked
leap slam,faster attacks for movement speed.
6 linked starforge cyclone,fortify,impale sup, brutality, melee phs dmg, infused channeling

4371 armor @ 31% reduction
evasion 1911 @ 9 % <-- being worked on via gear/ gems
6% chance to dodge attacks,
235 life regen , res cap, 0 chaos.

5300hp / 137k dps
blood-sand, haste, dread banner, precision
will probably be dropping bleed/dread for armor/evasion gems or something.

did 3x T16 easy yellow maps. only died a total of 5 times...
which is a great start considering i was getting nuked in T4 lol.

Doing pretty good now.
Just trying to figure out some of the new items that came out these last 3-4 leagues.




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Quote (Ramy @ Apr 9 2020 04:42pm)
so many things to say... where do I start...

you're having trouble with T4+ maps with your current build at 5,300HP... I'm not going to go through the 3.2 build guide and see what's so bad with it but if you're following it and struggling with T4 maps, well, there's your answer...

so in short scratch your entire build, follow the other build guide you linked

getting a 6link starforge is better but you sounded like you couldnt afford one, also you will need to change your whole tree, atziri's is fine... you should be able to use it and do t16 maps with no problem
your weapon is not the big issue here (except for the 5link part... that's an issue... but even then 5links shouldn't struggle in T4 maps)

the reason I asked about your armor is because you need to know your armor to determine if you're better off using Molten Shell or Steelskin
you can read both gems and figure out which one is better for you (I don't agree with the level 5 Cast When Dmg Taken though... too low level)
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Molten_Shell
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Steelskin


also I asked about fortify and you didn't answer. Use fortify.


mr. Dean do you think we may offer him a coupon?
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Apr 10 2020 12:23am

Fee Waived if your buying items in bulk, lol.
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mr. Dean do you think we may offer him a coupon?


Have him fill out a scholarship application. He may qualify for support from the Weak and Needy Foundation.
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