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Jan 19 2019 09:41pm
I am wondering why so many guides I read the writer chooses to use a bow vs using a staff to craft +3 for srs

The staff seems like it would be easier to color, and it also has block chance. Can someone please explain why bows are much better than staff for srs?
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Jan 19 2019 10:22pm
Because of the looks
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Jan 19 2019 10:28pm
Quote (Flipendo @ Jan 20 2019 06:22am)
Because of the looks


lol..

movement skills. no one likes flamedash. Don't know much about srs. but are there any other stats they want? that also may be influencing it. but movement skills influences weapon choice a lot
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Jan 19 2019 11:41pm
Did you check if they use a quiver?
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I guess there are 3 possibilities that comes to my mind without being a pro at srs in any way:
1. Ability to complement the bow with a gg quiver boasting dps/ehp or potentially even defenses depending on approach.
2. Mobility, some prefer blink arrow over other movement skills.
3. 6L bow may be easier to aquirie with some div cards etc.
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Jan 20 2019 08:03am
Now that u cannot Mastercraft "support with Blood Magic" anymore its simply easy coloring and Block on Staff versus using a Quiver and have acces to Blink Arrow on Bow.
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Jan 20 2019 11:07am
nn staff or bow, +3skillsrs is like 2014, and only proved 33%more damage, when double weapon or onehanders or nice disco items, provides better then 33%more damage.

also, the new srs passives notes not make you require 33%more damage
AKA, take passive damage notes instead of survival notes, and take survival weapon+shield and still profit


Not sure, but a bow can have the Delve mod ontop of the +3srs, thats +1to intel skill gems, makes it +4srs?
http://poeaffix.net/2h-bow.html#/
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Jan 20 2019 11:15am
Disco, for example

you cast your (4-5)6link body armour SrS
you get 2hander sword: 100%skelleton speed, for your necro

cwdt-sks-winion speed-winion damage-multistrike-melee splash (to dust/necro, 3to5skellie per trigger)
heartbound loop, so your srs casting creates skeletons
donkey helmet 3.5: heal 10000 life/es/mana per 5 sec, on automatic corpse consume / offering

thats cloose to 166.6%more damage from weapon, instead of the 33%more from the +3srs

e/example2
soulwrest staff, get 20free phantasms, and put skellies in 4link

This post was edited by Tommyvv on Jan 20 2019 11:17am
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Jan 21 2019 05:57am
All good answers, I did not consider quiver as the bonus or blink arrow.

I'm currently using a minion claw I crafted with bound fossil, and I am pretty sure +3bow/staff provides the most DPS.

On a staff you can roll:
+1 socketed gems
+2 fire gems
+130% minion damage
+38% cast speed
+1 int gems or +1 str (fossil crafting, extremely expensive and you need to get very lucky)

The +1int or +1str works fine since int will hit SRS and str will support empower.

With empower 4 + 21 SRS + 3 from staff and +1 extra from staff to empower, you will have a level 28 SRS.

With the vaal crafting, if you double corrupt a skin of the loyal into +1 gems and +2 duration gems, you can potentially get 28 SRS as well.

Bow:
+1 socketed gems
+2 fire gems (with essence craft)

You cannot roll the +1 int gems on the bow because you won't be able to get both +2 fire and +1 int since one requires essence craft and the other is fossil craft, but realistically the facted fossil craft is very expensive so aiming for +3 is already good enough.
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Jan 21 2019 07:44am
Quote (ironstove @ Jan 21 2019 11:57am)
, and I am pretty sure +3bow/staff provides the most DPS.


https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Summon_Raging_Spirit
110*1.10*1.10===> 33%more damage from +3staff

if use anger, your 33%more damage, becomes +/-26%more damage


https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Victario%27s_Charity
Effects on Monsters and Minions
Frenzy charges:
15% increased Attack Speed per Frenzy Charge
15% increased Cast Speed per Frenzy Charge
4% more Damage per Frenzy Charge
5% increased Movement Speed per Frenzy Charge

Power charges:
200% increased Critical Strike Chance per Power Charge

only the shield, already provides 45%attack speed for srs, and 12%more damage, and 15%movementspeed
133/1.12==> 19%more damage required from the 45%attack speed, to make shield beat bow, happening after 20srs hit 3times





not saying you need to use shield, just saying you +3staff not provides best damage, and i already listed 3 alternatives this topic,
why need 33%more srs damage, when you can get 100%more damage from autosummoner skellies, and another 100%more damage from autosummoner phantasm

+3srs staff may be only a good option for a non necro with only 45%minion damage notes
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