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Aug 10 2011 02:24pm
he said that at 11:07 an u said it at 1? ok
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Aug 10 2011 02:35pm
Quote (MimeTime @ Aug 10 2011 01:24pm)
he said that at 11:07 an u said it at 1? ok


sigh... tired of having to explain every detail to you... it's really not that complicated, but apparently to you it is.

was just giving a warning based on my opinion, no one is forcing anyone to believe me, if you want to continue this pm me... but I'm done here

This post was edited by mjm69 on Aug 10 2011 02:38pm
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Aug 10 2011 04:29pm
Holy fuck... All this fucking e-drama goes down while I'm gone registering for classes?

Iight let me give you guys a blow by blow of the events of yesterday WITH screen shots and PM logs yadayada.



This is the PM log of the transaction between me and mjm69, as it states, I was busy getting rushed on ladder and afterwards had to call my college to find out informaiton about the upcoming semester as well as getting appointments to talk to my counselor which I did today.

Yes I ended up abandoning the trade, without notifying mjm. But does someone changing their mind about a trade really mean it was a " scam attempt "? o.o I didn't wanna do the trade anymore so I simply logged off game.

More insight as to what transgressed in game of " Dragon Nest " I logged on after receiving his last pm that he would be logging on, The Character " SheMule " is obviously what it states, a mule, so I wanted to log over to my main to mail the gold to my alt. I didn't want my main account to be at risk of anything, obviously why I gave him an alternate account and a mule's name. I continuined to alt tab back into game when he finally contacted me. I told him to hold on a second and logged off game to log over to my main and mail the gold, during which I thought better of the trade and didn't log back in to game. Does this really mean I " attempted to scam " him? I really don't think so. I believe I reserve the right to choose whom I do and don't want to trade with. During this same time that this was transgressing Jinzx had also pm'd me looking to buy Dragon Nest gold. So i was simultaneously talking to Jinzx as I was getting rushed and dealing with my college, I told Jinzx the same thing I told MjM in pm, that I was busy dealing with real life concerns at the moment and I would get back to him when I was ready to actually make the trade.

P.S. I also pm'd mjm after I read his " attempted scammer " accusation of me, asking why he was overreacting to a misunderstanding and trying to ruin my reputation merely because I didn't trade with him, HE did not reply.

I will be posting an SS of pm logs from Jinzx once he replies with them to me, because I delete my pms after every successful trade.

This post was edited by Onslought on Aug 10 2011 04:31pm
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Aug 10 2011 04:55pm
^skimmed through that

You ignore my messages in game, log off without a word once you choose to "abandon" the trade for whatever reason, and don't reply to my pm's at least informing me that you "abandoned" the agreed upon deal after making me wait for you. Honestly I don't know if you were trying to scam or not, but you certainly act how a scammer who just failed his scam attempt would act.
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Aug 10 2011 05:00pm
Quote (mjm69 @ Aug 10 2011 06:55pm)
^skimmed through that

You ignore my messages in game, log off without a word once you choose to "abandon" the trade for whatever reason, and don't reply to my pm's at least informing me that you "abandoned" the agreed upon deal after making me wait for you. Honestly I don't know if you were trying to scam or not, but you certainly act how a scammer who just failed his scam attempt would act.


Please explain to me how I even attempted to scam you? I never said, " OK SEND ME GOLD NOW OR WE DON'T TRADE! " We didn't even begin the trade in game for you to even " want " to accuse me as a scammer, I logged on, waited for you to msg me, since you said you were logging on, got tired of waiting, alt tabbed to do something else, and then alt tabbed again to see if u had replied, like i previously stated, I told you hold on a second brb, and logged off. Made the mistake of not changing the login info on the damn dragonnest site so it automatically logged me back in on the mule account, and i saw that you msged me again once i logged in cause I again alt tabbed out of game to handle other matters, and then exited dragon nest and just said fuck it. This doesn't mean I acted like a scammer, just merely that i was bad mannered in our specific trade, and i acknowledge and accept that I may have been rude in our trade, but that doesn't give you the right to accuse me of " attempting " to scam you. When I never held any such intention nor have I ever in my time of using JSP. So why not accept that this was all a misunderstanding and apologize? I apologize for making you waste your time and for being BM in our trade and not alerting you of no longer wanting to trade. I feel you extremely overreacted by jumping to the assumption and conclusion that i was " attempting " to scam you. =\

P.S you never PM'd me again after the last pm in my Screenshot. You didn't ask me hey what's going on why'd you log off? Nada.

This post was edited by Onslought on Aug 10 2011 05:01pm
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Aug 10 2011 05:03pm
^Can you please be more concise in your replies? These walls of text are hurting my eyes...

Either way like I said, it was simply my opinion on how I felt you were doing business and I thought I would warn other people. Obviously someone has already had a successful trade with you so whether they choose to take my word for it is completely up to them.

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P.S you never PM'd me again after the last pm in my Screenshot. You didn't ask me hey what's going on why'd you log off? Nada.


You didn't reply to my previous pm and you ignored all my messages in game before you logged off. I didn't bother pming you again because I figured if you were actually legit you would have pm'd me explaining the details of what was going on. This is how I came to my conclusion... Like I've been saying, you apparently are legit according to Jinzx, but you act shady when you do business which makes people suspicious. Most of the time the buyer doesn't have to repeatedly pm the seller asking why he just logged off in the middle of a trade, but hey I guess that's how you deal.

This post was edited by mjm69 on Aug 10 2011 05:08pm
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Aug 10 2011 05:07pm
Quote (mjm69 @ Aug 10 2011 07:03pm)
^Can you please be more concise in your replies? These walls of text are hurting my eyes...

Either way like I said, it was simply my opinion on how I felt you were doing business and I thought I would warn other people. Obviously someone has already had a successful trade with you so whether they choose to take my word for it is completely up to them.


Can you stop being lazy and just read it? Well your opinion of my way of doing business is obviously wrong, if you were to call me a BM trader I would of accepted it because I agree that our trade on my part WAS bad mannered, but in no way shape or form was it remotely a " scam attempt ". I'm sure you wouldn't like it if I went onto your topic and said " MjM69 attempted to scam me. With no proof or supporting information to it at all. Which is pretty much what you just did.

Pretty scammer way yourself of doing business when you post on the only other person who is selling gold on your server's topic, accusing them of a scam attempt.
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Aug 10 2011 05:09pm
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Can you stop being lazy and just read it? Well your opinion of my way of doing business is obviously wrong, if you were to call me a BM trader I would of accepted it because I agree that our trade on my part WAS bad mannered, but in no way shape or form was it remotely a " scam attempt ". I'm sure you wouldn't like it if I went onto your topic and said " MjM69 attempted to scam me. With no proof or supporting information to it at all. Which is pretty much what you just did.

Pretty scammer way yourself of doing business when you post on the only other person who is selling gold on your server's topic, accusing them of a scam attempt.


There's plently of people selling gold on the server I play... And honestly I wouldn't care if you went into my topics and accused me of an attempted scam IF I acted the way you did during our failed trade
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Aug 10 2011 05:13pm
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There's plently of people selling gold on the server I play... And honestly I wouldn't care if you went into my topics and accused me of an attempted scam IF I acted the way you did during our failed trade


I'm referring to Velskud. The only people I see selling good at the lowest rate is myself. So of course you'd like to eliminate the competition. As to be able to sell it at your own inflated price. You completely missed the point regardless. I did not attempt to scam you, period. I merely choose not to trade with you anymore, and I'm glad I did, you appear to be of a shady character yourself, and I probably would of gotten scammed going through with our trade. Go figure.
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Aug 10 2011 05:16pm
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I'm referring to Velskud. The only people I see selling good at the lowest rate is myself. So of course you'd like to eliminate the competition. As to be able to sell it at your own inflated price. You completely missed the point regardless. I did not attempt to scam you, period. I merely choose not to trade with you anymore, and I'm glad I did, you appear to be of a shady character yourself, and I probably would of gotten scammed going through with our trade. Go figure.


There's like 2 or 3 people selling in Velskud right now besides you... all of em are inflated cuz no one actually cares about selling their gold.

And nice once calling me a scammer this late into the discussion, very classy of you, makes you look SO much more innocent.
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