[QUOTE=atilla,Oct 24 2009 07:32am

well one of the best classes but not in my groups ... maybe if we have 1 random char slot left[/QUOTE]

either you have not played with good rangers or you suck at putting groups together, ill take a couple rangers any day.

[QUOTE=godd,Oct 25 2009 03:15am][QUOTE=atilla,Oct 24 2009 07:32am

well one of the best classes but not in my groups ... maybe if we have 1 random char slot left[/QUOTE]

either you have not played with good rangers or you suck at putting groups together, ill take a couple rangers any day.[/QUOTE]

best groups 1 wizard 1-2 clerics /fvs (1 cleric + bard is ok too) 1-2 tanks 1 rouge rangers are useless

This post was edited by atilla on Oct 25 2009 03:55pm

how could it be "best groups" the best cleric should be able to heal everyone in group and the best tank should be able to tank everything...

if you need 2 clerics in your group then your clerics/fvs are gimped well that or the entire party.

don't leave out the sorc's man

bards are more than ok they make party's run so much smoother.
having "tanks" don't kill shit faster, u need dps for a well balanced party.


my cleric has solo healed a 12 man shroud raid, let a alone a simple 6 man party... my bard can out heal most clerics... and my barb can out dps your entire party but is shit for "tanking"
your incorrect knowledge of this game and arguing with me just for the sake of arguments is growing tiresome, unless you have a valid question or acutely useful advice to give some new players then i suggest you refrain from making further posts in this thread.

any good skill set-ups for an Arcane Ranger? Cause thats what I am atm. About to be a lvl 3 Ranger also.

Best Group

1 Caster/1 Healer/1 Tank/1 Rogue/2 DPS

Quest dependant of course, but most basic quests this is the best balanced group. You can always sub rogue for another caster.

Rangers make one of the best DPS class.

This post was edited by Grim04 on Oct 27 2009 09:10pm

Vouch

Some situations like defense missions are much easier with 2 healers or at least a dedicated healer and a back-up.

Some situations benefit from ranged DPS immensely. I can't remember s[specific quests, but if you can fire from a ledge at melee, it saves the risk of getting hurt. We demolished with 2 rangers and a wiz using this method and I just tanked bosses and mobs near no ledge areas.

I'm thinking of rolling a Sorc.

How many spells do sorcerers get to have active at any given time? I know this is their main weakness compared to a wizard who can swap in spells as he chooses.

Yet Deepwood Snipers do a LOT more burst damage.

By a LOT more. I mean 3-4 times more.

Arcane Archers are Deepwoods both however have theirs ups and downs



My Ranger will out DPS almost any class you put in your parties.

Both of them

I have a Melee ranger that slaps on a bow every 2 minutes and absolutely pummels things. I have more AC than most of your sub-par/par tanks. I have a + 53 Disable Device. My hit blows everyone else's out of the water. I can heal myself, as well as save your cleric some mana curing poisons, casting Resists/Protections, Freedoms. Etc. Maybe you should PLAY a ranger before making biased statements.




The " Best" Group has a Favored Soul, not a Cleric.
Why would you bring 1-2 "Tanks" is beyond me. 2 Rangers, A Bard, A Sorc, a FVS, and a "Tank" Figure.
One of your Rangers or Bards will have a splash of Rogues for DD. And yes, All it takes is a splash for a lot of traps. If you're using the right gear, a capped toon with 1 level of rogue can cap around 55-60 Disable Device which is enough for a good bit of content as long as we're not looking at elites. If you want to do end-game elites/epics You'll need a Rogue in place of a ranger.



This is solely based on the group's ability to allow the tank to gain agro on mobs that are not intimidatable - IE Vermin, Scorps, If they need to be tanked.



Good idea. Granted they're not as versatile as Wizards, they're DPS whores.

http://ddowiki.com/page/sorcerer?rdfrom=http%3A%2F%2Fddowiki.com%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DImage%3ASorcerer.png%26redirect%3Dno

This should help you in your adventures. I reference this for my characters constantly. It tells you when you get how many spell slots. It's QUITE the handy site.

This post was edited by Ironsolid06 on Oct 28 2009 08:39am

I'm a ranger, still fairly new to the game... Lvl 4 and I have to say it's a versatile class. I love being able to ping and then melee when they draw in... Me and my buddy take on quests beyond our capacity (he's lvl 6 and we do lvl 6 quests on hard) with just us two and do pretty well. Yes, that's counting mercs but still...