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Jun 29 2022 09:30pm
The real purpose of diablo immortal is to get as many people as possible to allow themself to get rekt by a big company while being aware of getting rekt by them. The awareness is the key part.

The only way the future plans can work is if everyone is complicit in getting screwed over. If they aren't aware and complicit, backlash may occur.

This has been a running theme for many years, but it's not until now that it's so obvious that I can point it out and perhaps enlighten a few people as to the kind of mind games going on at the top.

Money is certainly not the main goal. If money was ever the main goal, wow would have 50 million active subscribers right now and it's cash shop would be so good we'd all be checking it out every 10 minutes.

Developers are stupid enough to not know whats going on either, so you can't really blame them.

This post was edited by dysgenics on Jun 29 2022 09:35pm
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Jun 29 2022 09:32pm
All I saw was:

"Dont play the game but I feel my 2 cents should be forced upon everyone"

Great story bro.
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Jun 29 2022 09:32pm
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All I saw was:

"Dont play the game but I feel my 2 cents should be forced upon everyone"

Great story bro.


This message wasn't intended for you, my friend.

Take care of yourself.
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Jun 29 2022 09:38pm
im enjoying myself thoroughly in the game

Economy is working as intended

If you're playing the game, how are you getting screwed over?

Playing the game is a fucking choice
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Jun 29 2022 09:40pm
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im enjoying myself thoroughly in the game

Economy is working as intended

If you're playing the game, how are you getting screwed over?

Playing the game is a fucking choice


I'm also very happy to aggregate statistics on how much I am required to act like an NPC to not have clear disagreements with people, the internet gives a safe space for this. I'm not willing to test it in the pub.

Keep it coming.
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I'm also very happy to aggregate statistics on how much I am required to act like an NPC to not have clear disagreements with people, the internet gives a safe space for this. I'm not willing to test it in the pub.

Keep it coming.


wtf are you talking about
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Jun 29 2022 09:42pm
I'm bored of being a complete asshole to people I disagree with. Nobody is necessarily stupid, just ignorant or doesn't want to take the time to think, when I've spent 15 years thinking I can't expect others to be like me. I do apologise if my honesty appears condescending but further inspection should reveal the opposite.

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I'm bored of being a complete asshole to people I disagree with. Nobody is necessarily stupid, just ignorant or doesn't want to take the time to think, when I've spent 15 years thinking I can't expect others to be like me. I do apologise if my honesty appears condescending but further inspection should reveal the opposite.


thats fair

I'm a bit tired of all the hate being spewed at this game though especially by people who have never played it.

It's an incredibly good mobile game, better than ANY mobile game ever created, and is completely free to play yet people still rage at it.

MTX will always be the model for mobile games. And in this game you don't even get a whole lot for spending a bit of coin, just a very small power boost each time.

The REAL P2W only comes in when people spend $1,000++ to get 5 star legendary gems. If you're not doing that, paying money doesn't even get you a whole lot
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thats fair

I'm a bit tired of all the hate being spewed at this game though especially by people who have never played it.

It's an incredibly good mobile game, better than ANY mobile game ever created, and is completely free to play yet people still rage at it.

MTX will always be the model for mobile games. And in this game you don't even get a whole lot for spending a bit of coin, just a very small power boost each time.

The REAL P2W only comes in when people spend $1,000++ to get 5 star legendary gems. If you're not doing that, paying money doesn't even get you a whole lot


Unfortunately as soon as you download the game, you are giving them money with a personal profile of you worth anything from $5 to $60+++, potentially sold several times multiplying this. Information is the most valuable commodity nowadays. You are not free to play, you are the product and you are offering yourself as this.

What's really happening though, is you are the yard stick in which the $1000 (or more) player can measure themself against. I sure as hell feel superior to everyone when I'm playing my full golden decks in hearthstone classic, but even this is vastly different, while being the same concept. Those golden decks cost me no more than a few hundred euros and I'll never need to spend any more.

You are the fodder, or the thing that makes p2w worth it. I've no concept of how you can find this enjoyable with no chance of being a real player at any point, no real chance to enjoy the game.

Is there some kind of f2p exclusive thing you can be a part of? Other than reddit and d2jsp threads? In OSRS it's literally a different game, now that's pretty cool other than the amount of bs involved in that I wont mention, but its respectable. Are you literally just killing a boss when you go to the loo?
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Unfortunately as soon as you download the game, you are giving them money with a personal profile of you worth anything from $5 to $60+++, potentially sold several times multiplying this. Information is the most valuable commodity nowadays. You are not free to play, you are the product and you are offering yourself as this.

What's really happening though, is you are the yard stick in which the $1000 (or more) player can measure themself against. I sure as hell feel superior to everyone when I'm playing my full golden decks in hearthstone classic, but even this is vastly different, while being the same concept. Those golden decks cost me no more than a few hundred euros and I'll never need to spend any more.

You are the fodder, or the thing that makes p2w worth it. I've no concept of how you can find this enjoyable with no chance of being a real player at any point, no real chance to enjoy the game.

Is there some kind of f2p exclusive thing you can be a part of? Other than reddit and d2jsp threads? In OSRS it's literally a different game, now that's pretty cool other than the amount of bs involved in that I wont mention, but its respectable. Are you literally just killing a boss when you go to the loo?


well sure its true that doing stuff on the internet gives your information away unwillingly. There's no advertisements within the game though so this is no different than.. anything else on the internet.

Yes this is how mobile games operate. Whales would not whale if they didn't get a sense of superiority over the free players. What's wrong with this? As a low paying player (~20 dollars, plan to pay around 20 a month if I like and keep playing the game) I really don't care that people are stronger than me.

By "real player" you are referring to being a competitive player vying for #1 with yourself or your guild? I hate to inform you that 99% of players and people in general have other priorities in life they focus on. This is just a fun casual game. We can enjoy the game without going nolife mode, and it drains your phone battery...

Well this game you get much much more than f2p OSRS, like I said paying money doesn't even get you much in this game.

No one cares if the people you play and talk with pay, who pays more and who doesn't. Just see people as people just like real life bud. And yes you can take this game with you when you use the Porcelain Throne which is fantastic
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