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Jun 2 2022 03:43pm
p2w as a feature is bad for anyone who enjoys great games.. The model of creating the best game possible and allowing the experience to drive game sales will always result in better products. Hell, you can make a game experience good enough and people will keep buying it for decades ie Skyrim or D2. With a free p2w, the purpose of the game is not to be sold on it's own merit, but to create a competitive/progression experience that's frustrating enough to warrant spending money. It's not about the cost, people will happily pay for quality.
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Jun 2 2022 03:54pm
Quote (chiefbongwater @ Jun 1 2022 11:40pm)
I dont think pay to win is the real issue. I think its the fact that they just reskinned d3. If d3 was a better game, this would be huge. But unfortunately, d3 isnt very good. They took this long to release immortal just to play d3, its making me think d4 is a lost cause.


From what I've seen from dev updates D4 is a lost cause. The loot. Systems and all the other stuff. They are adding runes but no runewords... They act as gems. So clueless. Loot looks like d3 loot...
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Jun 2 2022 04:33pm
you can still enjoy a game, by yourself, paying or not paying. i dont get how it "ruins a game". let the franchise make its money. who cares. if you cant stand to see a pay to play game, DONT PLAY. its so simple. half the times i dont mind paying a little bit on a game because whats $5.99? I go to the gas station and buy a $10 lottery ticket and lose 90% of the time, so $1.99 and $10 is NOTHING. If you don't have money, thats a personal problem. Either play the game or don't. Companies have to spend alot of money and resources to create a "good game" and than they have to pay to maintain it. That isn't free. So if you were a true gamer, you'd support them.
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Jun 2 2022 04:38pm
Quote (Soul Snatcha @ 3 Jun 2022 00:33)
you can still enjoy a game, by yourself, paying or not paying. i dont get how it "ruins a game". let the franchise make its money. who cares. if you cant stand to see a pay to play game, DONT PLAY. its so simple. half the times i dont mind paying a little bit on a game because whats $5.99? I go to the gas station and buy a $10 lottery ticket and lose 90% of the time, so $1.99 and $10 is NOTHING. If you don't have money, thats a personal problem. Either play the game or don't. Companies have to spend alot of money and resources to create a "good game" and than they have to pay to maintain it. That isn't free. So if you were a true gamer, you'd support them.



But it’s free - then people complain about this and that. As I see the game, it’s mostly cosmetics and resources. But the resources are farm able. So yea your are totally right.

A reply to you lottery ticket reference: If you don’t play - you can’t win ;)
Good luck on the lottery
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Jun 2 2022 04:42pm
Quote (CaptainDahl @ Jun 2 2022 05:38pm)
But it’s free - then people complain about this and that. As I see the game, it’s mostly cosmetics and resources. But the resources are farm able. So yea your are totally right.

A reply to you lottery ticket reference: If you don’t play - you can’t win ;)
Good luck on the lottery


There is always the group of people who will find something to complain about. It will never be perfect unless it solely revolves around them and meets every demand they want. So far the game is very playable and I haven't spent a penny on it. I found a Legendary war hammer yesterday and I was so excited lol. Only reason I haven't spent money on this game is because my stupid google pay is requiring verification of my information and I've already submitted a ticket and it's been 2 weeks with no response. I need to find a number to call because this game I plan to pay into a little.
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Jun 2 2022 04:43pm
Quote (Soul Snatcha @ Jun 2 2022 11:33pm)
you can still enjoy a game, by yourself, paying or not paying. i dont get how it "ruins a game". let the franchise make its money. who cares. if you cant stand to see a pay to play game, DONT PLAY. its so simple. half the times i dont mind paying a little bit on a game because whats $5.99? I go to the gas station and buy a $10 lottery ticket and lose 90% of the time, so $1.99 and $10 is NOTHING. If you don't have money, thats a personal problem. Either play the game or don't. Companies have to spend alot of money and resources to create a "good game" and than they have to pay to maintain it. That isn't free. So if you were a true gamer, you'd support them.


5.99 will get u 3 legendary gems
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Jun 2 2022 04:44pm
Quote (RaynePayce @ Jun 2 2022 03:43pm)
5.99 will get u 3 legendary gems


lol
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Jun 2 2022 04:45pm
Quote (RaynePayce @ Jun 2 2022 05:43pm)
5.99 will get u 3 legendary gems


Hey, if that's something you're ok spending 5.99 for, go for it. I'm not mad at anyone who wants to pay to play. It's your money and you do what you want with it.
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Jun 2 2022 04:54pm
Quote (cheatingDeath @ Jun 1 2022 03:12pm)
If you dont have a good job then guess what ... thats YOUR own fault. Deal with it or get a better job and stop crying ffs


What about people with disabilities?
What about older people? 65+
What about younger people? <18

Your "GET A BETTER JOB" idea is a joke. Not everything is about the job you have.
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Jun 2 2022 05:03pm
Quote (Meeeeep @ Jun 2 2022 05:54pm)
What about people with disabilities?
What about older people? 65+
What about younger people? <18

Your "GET A BETTER JOB" idea is a joke. Not everything is about the job you have.


Make the best out of it. If you can't spend money, play it the best you can without doing so. I haven't spent a penny on it. Game is not hard in any form or fashion. I dont know what people are talking about "its unplayable without paying". What? I have yet to put a penny into it and I just hit level 37 and if anything, the game is border line too easy. Hopefully it gets unplayable because the most fun is the challenge into beating it.
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