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Jun 13 2022 03:26pm
Quote (Jaille @ Jun 13 2022 04:20pm)
Of course skill plays a big factor, saying that 'you can't win unless you pay' is silly
But spending money still gives you an advantage, that's what the complaints are about. If two guys are on the same skill level, the whale has better odds of winning, does he not?
But that's just how it is in pretty much every game really. RMT'ing BiS gear on d2 won't guarantee that I'll win the duel, but the odds are better than if I hadn't RMT'd etc., that's what people mean by p2w

The difference is blizz is directly encouraging RMT in immortal whereas in other diablo games they're not - you have to go through third parties and shit, so blizz isn't responsible

But whatever, I'm glad to hear you're having fun and success despite not having spent a penny though, that's remarkable


I understand and let those that want to spend, spend. Theoretically speaking yes, if a paragon 20 crusader vs an exact replica in level and skill, the paid gear is always superior. Now you have to factor in skills used and how effective you hit or miss. If let's say the paid player is only 60% effective, he will be punished for that but a more effective player.

It's fun. I love pvp I just dont like the limited play time. Even so, it gives me time to float around to do daily stuff and interact with my clannies and warband.
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Jun 13 2022 03:34pm
A nice support necro also makes a ton of diff. Check lower in the end match and see if there’s a 0-0-20 necro
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Jun 13 2022 03:45pm
what rank is this?
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Jun 13 2022 03:55pm
Quote (Jay255 @ Jun 13 2022 04:45pm)
what rank is this?


Bronze but in next game I move up to Silver, if that's next. O dont worry. I'll be posting in higher tiers too. Everybody gotta start somewhere. Stick around. I will be posting the higher tiers too. I can't ever be on and catch pvp cycle. This whole thread will be screens even once I'm in high tier ranks. Someone always gotta be a negative Nancy.

What tier are you in?

This post was edited by Soul Snatcha on Jun 13 2022 03:56pm
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Jun 13 2022 04:33pm
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Bronze but in next game I move up to Silver, if that's next. O dont worry. I'll be posting in higher tiers too. Everybody gotta start somewhere. Stick around. I will be posting the higher tiers too. I can't ever be on and catch pvp cycle. This whole thread will be screens even once I'm in high tier ranks. Someone always gotta be a negative Nancy.

What tier are you in?


I went up to silver just from daily wins and it does have a lot more geared players. Bronze is a joke, I went in on a 57 demon hunter and went 15-0 or something ridiculous a couple times
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Jun 13 2022 04:36pm
Quote (Jay255 @ Jun 13 2022 05:33pm)
I went up to silver just from daily wins and it does have a lot more geared players. Bronze is a joke, I went in on a 57 demon hunter and went 15-0 or something ridiculous a couple times


Well I'm not being paired with rookies. You know what really sucks though? My mobile data has a cap for the month and the speed is reduced once reached. I'm already capped off so when I do pvp I lag so bad. Cant wait till next month when my cap is removed because it's pretty tough to play in there with my 1-2 second delay. Half the time I attack somewhere it doesnt hit the person than they just magically appear way on the other side of my screen because of the delayed lag.
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Jun 13 2022 04:44pm
You do realize that MM ques you with similar geared people right? Like that literally null and voids all your statements... I mean it's not perfect but it's actively trying to match you with you with equally geared people.. Like your not queing up with Krakens your playing 8 year olds who downloaded cause cool.. Playing my wife who downloaded cause she heard it was fun and joined pvp for a quest...
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Jun 13 2022 04:50pm
Quote (kalypto @ Jun 13 2022 05:44pm)
You do realize that MM ques you with similar geared people right? Like that literally null and voids all your statements... I mean it's not perfect but it's actively trying to match you with you with equally geared people.. Like your not queing up with Krakens your playing 8 year olds who downloaded cause cool.. Playing my wife who downloaded cause she heard it was fun and joined pvp for a quest...


I didn't know that, no. First time I heard this, too. Would take a pretty sophisticated system to match you by "gear" and not your % wins like almost all other games that exist. I can understand it matchmaking you to similar statistic wins or loses. Unless it's officially noted somewhere, I can't imagine the system being able to compare gear between 16 players and compare how much each player has spent. Lol. I'd like to see the article that says this and not basing it on your assumption of so.
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Jun 13 2022 04:54pm
Quote (Soul Snatcha @ Jun 13 2022 06:50pm)
I didn't know that, no. First time I heard this, too. Would take a pretty sophisticated system to match you by "gear" and not your % wins like almost all other games that exist. I can understand it matchmaking you to similar statistic wins or loses. Unless it's officially noted somewhere, I can't imagine the system being able to compare gear between 16 players and compare how much each player has spent. Lol. I'd like to see the article that says this and not basing it on your assumption of so.


Honestly I don't think Blizz has released anything solid stating how it works either way.. Most games also do this..

That said even in a win based system your a week after launch and system would be absolute garbage at this point.. The sheer fact your scores are so much higher indicate that... I mean I guess unless we just assume your just a phone clicking god and nobody else can figure out to "run your combo of skills" or smash the same key as hard and fast as you

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Jun 13 2022 05:04pm
Quote (Soul Snatcha @ 10 Jun 2022 07:23)
https://i.postimg.cc/cJZ8KNCh/Screenshot-20220610-001120-Immortal.jpg

Mobile user also. Wow. Those legendary gems sure did make a difference! LOL

Guarentee everyone in there thinks I paid 100k. Haha. Chalking one up for team f2p.



Just a lot of play time i guess?

Congrats :hail:
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