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Jun 5 2022 05:19pm
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Jun 5 2022 06:15pm)
There's a difference between MTXs and P2W MTXs though. All you people who spend money on that are just enabling those companies, and when they see people spending more, they'll try to implement more features to get you to spend more. It's a function of time and it gets worse year after year.


Actually, the movement they're making is to eliminate copyright infringement that people are doing, stealing from their company, by selling their virtual property. Every time we turn around and sell something of theirs for our own financial gain, we are stealing from them.
The function gets worse over the years because every game is trying to find a way to stop people from selling their property. It's "corporate greed" or whatever you want to define it as, and no, I'm not here to support the cause like I'm a CEO of Blizzard. I don't care. The game is offered to be played, FREE, and the only thing people can do is sit here and whine about ALL the things that CAN be bought. You're not forced to buy anything. The game is playable for free. Play it or don't. There is no arguing with that and you can make it a topic of discussion all you want but the sooner you realize you're complaining about something that you have a CHOICE of, the sooner you'll stop worrying about it.
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Jun 5 2022 05:27pm
I don't even play Diablo Immoral.
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Jun 5 2022 05:27pm
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Actually, the movement they're making is to eliminate copyright infringement that people are doing, stealing from their company, by selling their virtual property. Every time we turn around and sell something of theirs for our own financial gain, we are stealing from them.
The function gets worse over the years because every game is trying to find a way to stop people from selling their property. It's "corporate greed" or whatever you want to define it as, and no, I'm not here to support the cause like I'm a CEO of Blizzard. I don't care. The game is offered to be played, FREE, and the only thing people can do is sit here and whine about ALL the things that CAN be bought. You're not forced to buy anything. The game is playable for free. Play it or don't. There is no arguing with that and you can make it a topic of discussion all you want but the sooner you realize you're complaining about something that you have a CHOICE of, the sooner you'll stop worrying about it.


Can you expand on what you mean by "we are stealing from them"? Are you talking about trading?

Don't you agree there are far more ways to monetize an aRPG w/o it being insanely P2W? Cosmetics, pets, UI features, etc? Why do they have to make it so you can just spend $ for increased damage? When the entire concept of increasing damage was originally by grinding and itemization (which is a core value of an aRPG)? And also the motor that drove Diablo 2's replayability for 2 decades.
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Jun 5 2022 05:45pm
i wouldn't play this shit if they payed me tbh
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Jun 5 2022 05:47pm
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Jun 5 2022 06:27pm)
Can you expand on what you mean by "we are stealing from them"? Are you talking about trading?

Don't you agree there are far more ways to monetize an aRPG w/o it being insanely P2W? Cosmetics, pets, UI features, etc? Why do they have to make it so you can just spend $ for increased damage? When the entire concept of increasing damage was originally by grinding and itemization (which is a core value of an aRPG)? And also the motor that drove Diablo 2's replayability for 2 decades.


Why do I have to break this down for you?

I am going to make this VERY simple for you. (my mouse just back pages and completely erased EVERYTHING i typed and im not doing it again)

You're telling me that if you mfed and built a pvp dueler from ONLY what you found, will EVER compare to a person who ran to D2jsp to buy items? Fat chance and that will be NEVER. You had to accumulate that FG, someway, somehow. Let's say you had 5b on Runescape. You sold that 5b for FG, instead of USD on the black market. As we all know, every type of currency holds some value in USD, somewhere. Whether you spent FG on those items or not, you STILL spent your time and value in it. If 5b was worth $300 usd, you still are spending $300 usd into building that character. The same guy (you, who is so focused on NOT spending money that your point is to grind and grind and grind and only build off what you find) goes to pvp the other guy who dumped his other game's currency for FG to gather up a fat inventory of 3/x/20s . You will be absolutely dominated. The only thing people are complaining about now is that you're dumping money into Blizzard to work for these chances to become "better". Is that all that playing a game matters to you? To be "better"? The reality is, there is always someone better than you. You gotta get over that.
Once again, it's choice. The game is free to play. You don't have to play and i've already wasted enough time typing this out responding to someone who has nothing to say. If you're that upset about it, don't play the game. If you already don't play, keep it that way. That's one less whiner I have to see in global chat.

And to sum it pretty simple for you: Piracy and Pirating IS still a felony offense. The moment you trade off an item from a game for your own gain, is Pirating. If you're unaware of that, you're probably from this younger generation that didn't have to grow up dealing with that.
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Jun 5 2022 05:58pm
Quote (B00MAN @ Jun 5 2022 04:45pm)
i wouldn't play this shit if they payed me tbh


ill pay u fg to play it
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Jun 5 2022 06:02pm
Quote (All_nighter @ Jun 6 2022 11:58am)
ill pay u fg to play it


u dont have enough :P
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Jun 5 2022 06:07pm
they’d probably make more money if they make everything free and just do that battlepass like monthly payment like they do WOW.
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Jun 5 2022 07:09pm
i feel like the people who are crying the most here are the people defending their shitty game from justified criticism made by people with common sense
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Jun 5 2022 07:30pm
Quote (CherskBlood @ Jun 5 2022 07:07pm)
they’d probably make more money if they make everything free and just do that battlepass like monthly payment like they do WOW.



They are following the same concept all mobile games use to make money, the problem here is Blizzard isn’t a mobile company. If this game was released from a no game company, it would be expected, seeing as its Blizzard people with fond memories of previous games are now outraged.

Edit: a little too high to do proper grammar.

This post was edited by Eros on Jun 5 2022 07:31pm
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