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Sep 26 2011 09:58am
Quote (piddywiffle @ Sep 26 2011 10:24am)
That depends on your idea of 'healthy'.

If you don't mind eating genetically modified, pesticide covered garbage then yes. It's cheap.


Lol you know nothing about food sadly.
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Sep 26 2011 10:22am
Quote (hofx2 @ Sep 26 2011 09:58am)
Lol you know nothing about food sadly.


Oh?

Explain it to me then.
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Sep 26 2011 10:56am
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Oh?

Explain it to me then.


You realize that at your local grocery store, in the fresh vegetables section, they are maybe 2 or 3 articles that are genetically modified?
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You realize that at your local grocery store, in the fresh vegetables section, they are maybe 2 or 3 articles that are genetically modified?


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Today, 7 out of every 10 items on grocery stores shelves contain ingredients that have been genetically modified. In other words, scientists are using new technology to transfer the genes of one species to another, and these altered foods are in the market stream.


http://www.plantea.com/genetically-modified-foods.htm

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It has been estimated that 60 to 70% of food products in retail stores already contain genetically modified ingredients. In 1998, U.S. farms cultivated over 45 million acres of GM commodities. This is a 250% increase from 1997 plantings. Commonly planted GM Foods include many major agricultural commodities, with genetically modified plants accounting for 25% of the corn acreage, 38% of the soybean acreage, and 45% of the cotton acreage grown today. Worldwide, over 69 million acres of GM crops were cultivated in 1998, with 15% of the acreage in developing countries.


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Hard cheeses provide another example of the use of genetically modified organisms in food production. Chymosin, the primary component of rennet, is the milk-clotting enzyme used to make cheese and other dairy products. Traditionally, this substance was derived from the stomachs of calves. It is now commercially produced by genetically modified microorganisms (most commonly, fungi). The FDA gave chymosin (from both traditional and GM sources) "generally recognized as safe" (GRAS) status, which makes it exempt from the usual premarket approval requirements. Approximately 90% of hard cheeses are now made using this enzyme, which is obtained from a genetically modified source.


http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/fs084


Thanks for playing, but I think I've done a little more reading about what I eat then you have =/
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Sep 26 2011 03:20pm
I'm talking about fresh ingredients, not processed crap...
And ok , now show me a serious report that genetically modified ingredient are actually bad for your health.

This post was edited by hofx2 on Sep 26 2011 03:21pm
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I'm talking about fresh ingredients, not processed crap...
And ok , now show me a serious report that genetically modified ingredient are actually bad for your health.


There are plenty of reports about GM foods, the problem is that we don't know yet. There is enough there to know that it's bad, it's just a question of HOW bad. Also Fresh does not mean Organic nor does it mean the product hasn't been modified/processed.

A note on the term 'fresh':

http://www.gustrength.com/nutrition:what-does-the-word-fresh-mean-on-food-labels


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All of this begs the question: is genetic modification of food safe? The question remains unanswered, but a pile of new scientific evidence has produced some worrying results. Within the last few months a Russian scientist, found that an astonishing 55 per cent of the offspring of rats fed on GM soya died within three weeks of birth compared with only 9 per cent in the control group.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3626742/You-dont-want-GM-foods-Too-bad.html

Others:

http://www.organicauthority.com/foodie-buzz/eight-reasons-gmos-are-bad-for-you.html

http://www.saynotogmos.org/10reasons_need.pdf
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Sep 26 2011 04:29pm
Fresh on food label? What is it that you dont understand.. the cucumber or the carrot that you buy from your grocery or your local market is fresh... and are not geneticaly modified...
I'm talking about raw ingredients... not processed or modified...

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Quote (hofx2 @ Sep 26 2011 04:29pm)
Fresh on food label? What is it that you dont understand.. the cucumber or the carrot that you buy from your grocery or your local market is fresh... and are not geneticaly modified...
I'm talking about raw ingredients... not processed or modified...


Fresh is a connotative term and marketers take advantage of that.

Unprocessed/Unmodified foods are called organic. These also cost more at the store, which goes back to my first post which says it's cheap IF you eat the garbage and not the good stuff.
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Sep 26 2011 06:18pm
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Fresh is a connotative term and marketers take advantage of that.

Unprocessed/Unmodified foods are called organic. These also cost more at the store, which goes back to my first post which says it's cheap IF you eat the garbage and not the good stuff.


u came off a bit snarky at first but i have to admit u have an excellent point. Your view is completely correct and is supported by recent trendy documentaries as well as scholarship.
the upshot, however, seems to be that eating food that is made from scratch with fresh produce is still infinitely better than eating fast food or processed food. thats what i'd call 'garbage'.
this is a pocketbook issue. i buy some organic and non gmo products but at times when money is tight i cant always afford the luxury. if i was rich, i'd have my own huge ass garden. that would be so bomb! i cant wait til i settle into a home and start a garden.
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Quote (eriot @ Sep 26 2011 06:18pm)
u came off a bit snarky at first but i have to admit u have an excellent point. Your view is completely correct and is supported by recent trendy documentaries as well as scholarship.
the upshot, however, seems to be that eating food that is made from scratch with fresh produce is still infinitely better than eating fast food or processed food. thats what i'd call 'garbage'.
this is a pocketbook issue. i buy some organic and non gmo products but at times when money is tight i cant always afford the luxury. if i was rich, i'd have my own huge ass garden. that would be so bomb! i cant wait til i settle into a home and start a garden.


I apologize for that.

Sometimes my emotions over this subject get the better of me :(
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