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Quote (fntpwns @ 26 May 2011 00:52)
du hast recht..die meisten guides hier auf jsp sind echt nicht so toll

meiner ist anders als diese standard random guides (@my profil findet man auch ein paar interessante guides)

und insgesamt x mal besser

ich wette mit dir..dass du keinen besseren originelleren guide schreiben kannst
das trifft auch auf viele der user zu die hier sinnlose beiträge gepostet haben

ich habe auch schon viele andere guides gelesen.. auf india z.b.
selbst diese sind oft deutlich besser als die guides auf jsp
ich denke mal mein guide kann mit denen von india locker mithalten

wenn du jetzt sagst "die india guides sind total crap" ist das für mich nur die bestätigung dass du einfach keine ahnung hast


ich hab bereits einen nonblock pvp nec guide und einen pvp druid guide geschrieben kannst ja mal die leute fragen die diese guides kennen ob die besser waren als der 8 dr pvp nec der hier gepostet ist

This post was edited by rafragzion on May 25 2011 05:01pm
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ich hab bereits einen nonblock pvp nec guide und einen pvp druid guide geschrieben kannst ja mal die leute fragen die diese guides kennen ob die besser waren als der 8 dr pvp nec der hier gepostet ist


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1xmanaburn und goodbye ... deswegen lebt sie immernoch :rolleyes: bin halt kein nap der in sc rumdödelt und sich da über manaburn nen kopf zerbricht...mit 120fcr telst du so schnell das die mobs dich garnicht treffen ...


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no link = no proof


hier proof

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HI

HERES my PVP DUDUMANN BUILD

1. ITANS
2.SKILLS
3.TAKKTIX


1.ITAMS

like we all know, there couple of enemies u will face if u ll going to pub or perform some 1n1s or even tvts.
thats why a druid needs atleast 2 setups if ur planning to be successful on pvping

first of all the dr setup:

helm:coa berber ( perf dr)
weapon: suicide branch 20 life 15@
amulet: 2 druid 18+ fcr str life...
rings: 2* 10 fcr str life res
belt: arach
boots:eth sands
gloves: trang gloves
shield: spirit monarch 35 fcr

inventory: 9* 45 life perf dudu torch/anni 10* 20 5@

the result: 163 fcr 99 fhr up to 7,8k life 5,9k torn dmg

the maxlife/res setup


first of all: there many possibilities if it comes to this setup
i prefer the one below because of the awesome style and stackres and dmg

helmet: 2 druid 3 torn 10 fhr pelt life shael or:
          2 druid 3 torn 10 fhr 2sox pelt shael,pruby
belt: arach
weapon: wizzy -15req 7 fhr adds
gloves: trang gloves
shield: spirit monarch
amulet: 2 druid 18+ fcr adds
rings: 2* 10 fcr life str res mana
boots: wws/hots( vs es fb sorcs)

the result: 163 fcr 86 fhr 6,4k dmg up to 8k life ( depends on the items)
              awesome style and awesome stack( depends on rings/amu)

2.SKILLZ

first of all max tornado and its synergies ( zyclone armor,twister,hurricane)
the max oak and spend one point into raven, gost-wolves,wolves,bear

ur done with lvl 94 but if u plan to get lvl 99 its possible to spend 1 point each into the fireskills. means u will be able to use armageddon and hurricane at the same time wich is fucking awesome at dvd or vs chars who use summons like hammeringos

3.takktix

wsg: weapon switch glitch

means if u got a mindblast on u for example u walk away and switch your weapons. u wont get any fhr animation and ur able to tele away.
this works rarely on the first try thats why u need to switch your weapons a couple of times.

throwlock:

lock an enemie with your throw button ( same as unsummon)
switch to tele then to your atack skill.
the throw button need to be on the right skill if your atack is aswell.
same if its on the left skill your attack skill need to be aswell

vs necs:
great necs are kinda rare on the mf realm
the regular pub-nec is allready slain by just jumping him and fuck him down to the green with your nado.
better necs use teeth to destroy your minons, means u need to dodge the row of teeth then jump him.
bone spears are pretty useless if u got all ur minons alife.
great necs will use rows of teeth and will spray some bunches of invisible bone spirits and if u jump em the walk southwards ( down) while they r shooting spears. the best chance to kill one of those is that u guess his movements and just tele to the place he ll walk to.
use wolves and the max life setup.

vs hammerdins:
get all your minons alife and jump them. if the desync only jump if u got a lock on them ( means only jump em by throwlock)
great hammers use grief.
if they do jump em while they charge or stand still and joder but only shoot one nado then get off them and tele some screens away to recast.
if ur getting smited while u jump a hammerdin in his hammerfield ur history.
thats why u need to shoot only one nado and tele away quickly.
the best ones will follow your tele-movements by chainlocking and u cant recast because they are on u if u rest for some seconds.
u need to escape or walk southwards an shoot to get some distance.
use wolves.use the max life setup vs joders, vs hammers with grief use the dr setup.

vssorcs:
life sorcs are a bunch of feed for a druid.jump firesorcs with bear, others with wolves on. use your res/maxlife setup.

vs es sorcs:
here comes one of the antichars:the es fb sorc.
first of all use hotspurs and bear. bad sorcs are easy to jump and to kill.
the best ones will defwhore under a meteor while they shoot locked fbs at you. this duel will require mass train and any es fb sorc required a different playstyle.the best sorcs will explode out of their defwhore and hunt u down while u try to recast your cyclone armor or your minons and its up to you to defwhore and run away since u got all casted then attack again but try not to get hitten by the falling meteor.
es light sorcs are feed in general. if they arent just jump and chainlock them untill they are dead. avoid waves of combolight to keep your minons alife. use wolves vs better ones, bear vs bad ones.
bad es blizzers are food if u use wolves and cyclone armor.
the best ones cast a blizz then walk southwards if u jump em. try to guess their movement and tele there with all your minons and cyclone armor on.

vs smitters:
not that easy w/o any block.
u need to tele around and spam random nados
if u wanna recast or stand still make sure that theres a wall or a stone or something else behind u that will stop the charge knockback.
tele around and guess the desync if the smite is a chargin random and shoot some nados there.
if u get hitten by a smite or charge walk away from the smite and if u left his weapon range tele away.
only jump em with throwlock if they charge or if they are low on life.
if this nerds use lt just tele away if your wolves got lt on and recast all your minons. use your defplay skills faggot.
use wolfes, dr setup

vs chargers:
just jump them and tele away quickly after u shoot one nado at them.
allways use throwlock if u jump.
good chargers will cake u 5-0 ( if they use aa)
normal pub ones are easy to slam

vs bvcs:

its a naise son of art to beat a gz bvc/bva on a nonblock druid.
first of all play mass def.allways tele away if ur getting leaped ( u will escape after one leap)but spray some nados in the area first. shoot tornadoes to the left and the right of your char if your enemy wirls u from the side.
if not try to read this wws and shoot to this place.
the normal system to beat a bvc/ bva is, that u tele around and shoot nados. if he leaps u shoot more nados and if he jump tele away as quick as u can to avoid getting hitted.
your tanking abilities are low if your minons are dead, thats why u allways need to keep your minons alife.never tank while u stand still, never jump a barb, thats pure suicide.
use wolves and the dr setup

vs amazons:
javas are food. jump em and shoot if they are low on fhr. if not shoot 2-3 nados then escape. keep your minons alife and use the res/maxlife setup or the dr setup if theres some phys dmg on this char.
vs bad bowies your behavior will be the same. avoid the waves of multis and trowlock-jump them with your minons on= dead.
good bowies will use southwalk and fury. tele on them with trowlock and all your minons on, if your minons are dead flee and recast.
use wolves, dr setup

vs assasinka:

since we all know that a assa is a faggot char, its no shame to loose vs one on druid.
pub assas wich defwhore on their 5 traps are lame, thats why i allways absorb them to the maximum and kill them.
if u got a gm duel vs a trapper u got different choices to play.
in general: if u got a mb on u walk away and use wsg( explained above)
only jump em if they are low and if their shadow master is dead.
best tactic to beat the normal asn is the defwhore one.
tele away and spray nados behind u untill the asn is low on life.
if the assa teles away from her traps or if she performs another mistake jump quickly and leave after some hits. allways recast your cyclone armor and use wolves.u wont stand a chance vs a good trapper.
u got zero chances vs a medium played hybsin, vs a bad one play like u did vs the trapper.
u got zero chances vs a proper ww sind vs a bad one play like u would vs the barb.
setups: vs ww sin use the dr setup
setups vs trappers:

174 fhr 99 fcr setup:

pelt 5 nado 30 fhr
19 fcr 2 druid amu
bloodfist
spirit sword
spirit shield
tg
1* bk
aldurs boots

much tanking abilities here and ur fast/ high dmg life
my prefered setup vs topclass trappers( if they use fb use hots instead of the aldurs boots)
u need max light res on your bo switch to wsg

174 fhr 163 fhr setup

dual spirit
circ 2 druid 20 fcr 2 sox shael shael
arach
13+ fcr amu
dancer or eth sands+ 1 5 fhr 5@ sc

low tanking abilities and hard to get max lightres on the bo switch.
but ur hard to catch and your fhr is pretty great. this setup is great do defwhore and flee over the whole map while u spray nados. low dmg

the standart maxlife res setup

high dmg/ res/ life but low fhr frw and zero abs. hard to win with this.


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siema

after mine strong dudumen guide i cr8te now a even gzetter nekri guide


inhalt:
1.ITANS
2.SPEZIAL SETUBS:
3. STATS/SKILLS
4.How to play as gz as i do:


1.ITANS

dr/pub eq:

coa ber -15req 15@
dungo 40 vita 15 dr
hoto 40( oak jej noneth ofc)
soj or abs ring
trang gloves
aldurs boots
spirit monrach 35 fcr
10 fcr str mana life res ring
2 nec or 2 pb 20 fcr amu ( life str mana)

9* 45 life pb skiller
perf torch/anni
10* 20 5@

goals to reach:

3,5k life++ ( more = better guess what lol)
1k mana++ ( c abowe)
5k spear dmg
5,1k spirit dmg
86 fhr
some stack

ele dmg eq:

hm i dont use a eq like this because its not rly needed vs ladder niggers

possible:

szako jah
hoto
arach
bloods
spirit
10 fcr ring str mana life res
soj or abs ring
aldurs boots
spirit
2 nec/pb 20 fcr amu

low stack/ dmg but the possibility to use OAK + great life mana

circ:

white ( 8 speer)
2 20 fcr nec circ with adds ( frw res life 2 sox etc socket 20 life 15@)
trang gloves
fcr ring
soj or abs ring
spirit
2nec/pb 20 fcr amu
24 fhr str  life res belt ( rare or cast craft if u got enough str to switch the 10 fcr ring to a second soj)
aldurs boots or trires boots or hots ( vs es fb sorcs)

low stack high dmg high life no oak ( good at gm nec vs nec or vs hammerins)

circ2:

hoto
bloods
circ as above
spirit
10 fcr ring
soj or abs ring
aldurs or tires boots
2 nec/pb 20 fcr amu
str fhr life res belt

2.SPEZIAL SETUBS:

es fb sorc:

use the setup circ while using a 3 nova 3 lower res white and hots

es blizzer

use circ2 while using wizzy with 9 str jwl and dual raven

es light sorc

use circ 2 while using tg

air druid:

use the pub setup while using one raven instead soj

BM setup:

coa
arach
8 spear white with vives add
aldurs or hots ( depends on enemies)
2 nec 20 fcr amu
10 fcr ring
soj or abs ring

cs setup:

8 spear white
hots
spirit
20 fcr amu
10 fcr ring
soj
arach
coa

3. STATS/SKILLS

stets:

str: enough to wear all your eqs
life: rest
mana: 100%
dex: only fags and müsliriegel use block

skiels:

bone spear: max
bone spirit: max
teeth: max
bonewall: max
boneprison: max
gaylem: 1 point
gaylem masterry: 1 point

gm skills:

all the points u got after this could be spend into psn nova and its synergies

bm skills:

1 point into summon skeleton
1 point into summon skeleton magician

curses:

u need dim vision as your pvm curse or amp as your pvp curse

u got enough points for one curse and bm or gm skills on lvl 96
i try to reach lvl 97 to get the summon resistanze skill

4.How to play as gz as i do:


ibs: invisible bone spirits
telport away if u dont see your enemy on the map
then shoot at his direction
the large ranged bone spirits get invisible sometimes

wsg: weapon switch glitch
switch your weapons while u get stunned to avoid the fhr animation

vs asn:
use tgod or wisp on pub setup or on circ or circ2
use hots if its a fireblast asn

telport around while shooting some bonespirits
try to lock the asn with the spirits then spear her
walk away if u got mindblasted or wsg then telport
easy-moderate

vs smitters:

try to keep some distance and shoot bonespirits in his direction if he charges alot or shoot some ibs
avoid getting chargelocked and telport much / hide behind your walls(no prisons thats bm)
lock him with spear if hes low
telesmitters are harder but if u telport around while shooting bonespirits
they are no challange
just avoid to get locked and smited
if he hits u walk some steps away then telport away
easy-moderate

vs vt:

use one wisp instead of soj
play like u would vs the smite
if hes using a foh szepter on second slot( only spawns do that)
jump him with spear while hes fohin u
easy-moderate

vs hammerdyn:

joders arent easy
if u wanna rape em gm style use some walls as block and spawn mass ibs or telport one screen away from him while shootin spirits
great hammerdins will lock u
start to shoot some bonespirits around
if hes locking u walk down and spear this fag
easy-hard

vs bow:

jump her with golem and lock some bonespirits on her
then start using spear
easy-moderate

vs java:

random javas could be raped by walking around and shooting mass bonespirits
great javas are able to jump u
use tgods and telport around while shooting spirits
dont walk away= useless
use tgods or one wisp
easy-hard

vs es fb sorcs:

a hell faggit of a enemy
use the anti es fb setup or the pubsetup while using hotspurs
those tank alot even on ladder
telport around and cast lower resis then shoot some novas
its helpfull to cast some bonespirits and your movements should follow those spirits
if this sorc locks u just try to walk away while shooting nova( if shes not psned) or bonespirits or spears if u got a lock
u need much train to win this
moderate-hard

vs es blizzer

wow even harder
use circ2 eq with dual raven and just defwhore while shooting ibs and bonespirits
or try to use the psn setup if she got low life ( bad ones should be np with the tactix above)
hard

vs life sorc:

defwhore shoot ibs and bonespirits jump her at the right moment w/o any try to tank her means jump her from behind
easy-moderate

vs air druid:

hell my fav duel
use the druid eq
telport around and shoot lines of ibs and bspirits
move around those and try to kill the minons of the druid with your teeth
if hes "naked" lock him with spear
never jump him only shoot him from some steps away
this requires alot of train and still any decent druid will win u( at ft5)
hard-faggot

barbs:

telport around and shoot spirits
only jump him if hes rly low then spear
shoot ibs etc
great zerklocking barbs are harder
just stay away and shoot telport much
easy-hard

howtu bm:

use skeltons,vives
nk, steal gold and rape games 1n8
drink juvs etc
use boneprison vs hammerdins bowers and smites and vs barbs
use a token and respec your char to psn nec if u need to rape a es sorc
aehahehae


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Quote (fntpwns @ May 25 2011 10:16pm)
sry bigbum..aber ich habe nicht so ganz verstanden was du mir damit sagen wolltest^^


what ever wollte nur sagen das fhr wichtig is im pvm auch wenn meine erklärung bissel komisch ist ...

mit bissel denken kann man das aber auch verstehen^^
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Quote (blah2k6 @ 26 May 2011 01:38)
hier proof


ok neger sind noch einige fehler drin weil schnell runter geschrieben werde mal zwei deutsche guides ausarbeiten
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May 26 2011 03:56am
pvp guides kann man schlecht mit pvm guides vergleichen
pvp gibts auch oft nur wenig item möglichkeiten

das einzig gute an deinen guides ist die "how to play" sektion
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May 26 2011 04:02am
Quote (fntpwns @ 26 May 2011 11:56)
pvp guides kann man schlecht mit pvm guides vergleichen
pvp gibts auch oft nur wenig item möglichkeiten

das einzig gute an deinen guides ist die "how to play" sektion



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May 26 2011 04:11am
is ja nicht mal hc fähig <_<
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Quote (Shinbazu @ May 26 2011 12:11pm)
is ja nicht mal hc fähig  <_<


wer redet hier von hc oO
ich nicht
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