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May 28 2022 05:49pm
The HOlyshock and Holy Fire auras stack correct?
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May 28 2022 05:51pm
Can do hoj/dragon/dream/dream. That was the original auradin when you could stack auras via the trade screen glitch.
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May 28 2022 05:54pm
Yes stack


Dont use dreams, its crappier then full holy fire,

I tested them both with setups, pulse damage is better full holyfire then 50/50 build,

Use flickering flame or facet helm

Rest mf eq
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May 28 2022 06:01pm
Quote (xXHeisenbergXx @ May 28 2022 04:54pm)
Yes stack


Dont use dreams, its crappier then full holy fire,

I tested them both with setups, pulse damage is better full holyfire then 50/50 build,

Use flickering flame or facet helm

Rest mf eq


Probably, but the dual source damage is better overallI think
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May 28 2022 06:03pm
Quote (SkyNetCyberDyne @ May 29 2022 02:01am)
Probably, but the dual source damage is better overallI think


For zeal yes, not for pulse

They buffed holyfire damage

I mostly do cowruns only with the auradin,

When i eq dream helm shield
Crap damage from pulse

Then full holyfire

Cows hell dies in 2 pulse
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May 29 2022 05:21pm
Quote (xXHeisenbergXx @ May 28 2022 08:03pm)
For zeal yes, not for pulse

They buffed holyfire damage

I mostly do cowruns only with the auradin,

When i eq dream helm shield
Crap damage from pulse

Then full holyfire

Cows hell dies in 2 pulse


What other areas besides cow will a full dragon/hoj boy crush? seems like pit and most wsk maps would be good?

We're running self convic right? Flickering flame seems garbage, does a facet helm meaningfully help us or can we use some sort of circlet?

What merc setup did you like?

This post was edited by peakoil on May 29 2022 05:27pm
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May 29 2022 05:37pm
Quote (peakoil @ May 29 2022 06:21pm)
What other areas besides cow will a full dragon/hoj boy crush? seems like pit and most wsk maps would be good?

We're running self convic right? Flickering flame seems garbage, does a facet helm meaningfully help us or can we use some sort of circlet?

What merc setup did you like?


The -res adds up from flickering flame, but any faceted hat will do much the same, since +fire skills are moot on an auradin. Just not quite as potentially high without a 3os hat.

Use a fire a1 with a mist mat, flickering flame and a CoH/treachery.

The mist has 100% pierce which is good with things that explode like… exploding arrow plus all that +skills, and that repeated aoe fire damage is intense with your conviction.
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Quote (NarcoticOrgy @ May 29 2022 07:37pm)
The -res adds up from flickering flame, but any faceted hat will do much the same, since +fire skills are moot on an auradin. Just not quite as potentially high without a 3os hat.

Use a fire a1 with a mist mat, flickering flame and a CoH/treachery.

The mist has 100% pierce which is good with things that explode like… exploding arrow plus all that +skills, and that repeated aoe fire damage is intense with your conviction.


thx man i've been meaning to test a1 fire on my dream pally, i run a1 cold / mist and am kinda obsessed with that. i think on fire pala i'd be marginally more inclined to stick with the cold merc to get a different damage type and still access the cc from delirium and ias from treachery.

I'm gonna test it all!
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May 29 2022 05:45pm
Quote (peakoil @ May 29 2022 06:43pm)
thx man i've been meaning to test a1 fire on my dream pally, i run a1 cold / mist and am kinda obsessed with that. i think on fire pala i'd be marginally more inclined to stick with the cold merc to get a different damage type and still access the cc from delirium and ias from treachery.

I'm gonna test it all!



I’ve been using a1 a lot more after insight became available to them, and they crowd control as good to better than a holy freeze merc for everything but cold immunes. She drops freezing arrows enough that packs just stand still.

I don’t blame you for opting for an ice merc. :)
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May 30 2022 01:38pm
Quote (xXHeisenbergXx @ May 28 2022 05:03pm)
For zeal yes, not for pulse

They buffed holyfire damage

I mostly do cowruns only with the auradin,

When i eq dream helm shield
Crap damage from pulse

Then full holyfire

Cows hell dies in 2 pulse


I'm inclined to believe that dream/dragon/HoJ is a far better setup, because having a dual sourced elemental damage, against varying farm zones is superior due to the drop off of resistance reduction damage, against mobs that have strong elemental resistance to fire (gargoyles in chaos) vs minions that have little lightning resistance.

I do believe dream/dragon/handofjustice outperforms in all areas while purefire may be a little faster at killing cows ( mobs with no resist)

Additionally with dual plague on an act 5 frenzy merc, lower resist with constant poison nova spams as well is absurd damage output and with lower resist, hits maximum -% reduction in resists on mobs (Lower resist + Conviction hard breaks all immnuties as well)




Example - Gargoyle in chaos sanct has very high fire resistance (lets just say 75%) and minimal light resistance (20%). So when I -180% from conviction/HoJ, I am capped on my fire damage output, where as holyshock+holyfire I can drill into his negative light resist to dropping to -230%.


Scoring more damage, on top of highend hits for melee.

This post was edited by SkyNetCyberDyne on May 30 2022 01:42pm
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