They change my zealers sheet dmg by roughly 30points.
59%ed only equals 30pts?
The math doesnt seem to be mathing

No wonder i never knew of anyone to use them

are you comparing the dmg go up on screen numbers while using a grief?

the end total shown will be way off base this way. Try putting them on with an ebotd and you will see closer to real numbers (on the max dmg side anyway)

As soon as you asked about greif I forgot greif and sheet dmg dont work normally

I did have a plan to get ebotdz.
Im not sure why I never was a huge fan of greif except on a smiter.
Even my old kick sin had a lw

grief is best in slot, it just won't show you real dmg screen numbers.

ebotd or oath just to get a vague idea of what they should be at with modifications such as what you are doing.

I know its bis for quite a few builds.
I haven't had a melee char excepr a kicksin or smiter since the days that iron maiden was cast in chaos sanctuary.

Feels like a skip, sometimes