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Apr 21 2026 12:29pm
Hi

Just out of curiosity since I have been asked now multiple times...

Is there any reason to value items differently based on whats socketed inside even though the outcome stays the same?

Example:

Griffon 24/29

Does it really make a difference, if its a 15/20 griffon socketed with 9/-9 jewel or if its a 14/19 griffon socketed with 10/-10 jewel?
Let's say exp/eg/mf are the same and lets ignore the fact that if you own a 10/-10 you would probably want to put it in a perf griffon...

Ive also seen this being discussed about other items such as rares and I wonder, why it is being discussed at all if in the end the result is what counts or am I missing something here
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Apr 21 2026 12:39pm
yes it makes a difference

you can still socket a 10/10 in the 20/15, you cant socket a 11/11 in the 14/19
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Apr 21 2026 12:41pm
Yeah of course it matters, the 15/20 griffon is always worth more because someone may want to unsocket it and put a perfect jewel in at a later point. You have to think about the psychology of valuing items. Even if one is very unlikely to mess with the item, it feels better to have the perfect base.


Tangentially related: think about unid item prices. Mathematically, an unid item should sell for as much as an item that rolls with completely average stats. In practice, unid sells for more because psychologically, people like that chance to gamble on a better roll
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This post was edited by Bombout on Apr 21 2026 12:46pm
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