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Apr 2 2026 01:04pm
hey i wanna try echo warlock, im bored of magic warlock its time to go for echo.

is it worth to play non eth arioc needle? i got one i drope +4skills or maybe insight is better, but in what base?
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any insight is better

eth archon insight is my preferred
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Apr 2 2026 01:05pm
insight is king
arioc eth vs no eth here: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=108959486
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For me I prefer

Eth Colossal Bulge
Eth Manpolecatcher
Eth Sturgeon Pike
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Apr 2 2026 01:06pm
any insight is better

eth archon insight is my preferred


what to put then to merc? budget not hrs also insighy xD
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Apr 2 2026 01:07pm
what to put then to merc? budget not hrs also insighy xD


pride on merc
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what to put then to merc? budget not hrs also insighy xD


pride is your goal, otherwise it doesn’t matter much because you’ll kill everything before merc has a chance to even hit
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Apr 2 2026 01:09pm
Someone more autistic will probably correct me but insight is king if you can get a good eth base.

The build fucking destroys everything though so at the end of the day it honestly doesn’t matter, that’s how busted it is. I like fortitude for the survivability and didn’t even notice I made it in the wrong non eth tmaul for like 30 hours of gameplay because everything still dies immediately
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Apr 2 2026 01:13pm
Someone more autistic will probably correct me but insight is king if you can get a good eth base.

The build fucking destroys everything though so at the end of the day it honestly doesn’t matter, that’s how busted it is. I like fortitude for the survivability and didn’t even notice I made it in the wrong non eth tmaul for like 30 hours of gameplay because everything still dies immediately


best base for insight for echo?
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Apr 2 2026 01:14pm
what to put then to merc? budget not hrs also insighy xD


Use another insight until pride. Just be sure to use act 2 merc with might aura.
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