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Apr 1 2026 08:18am
Eth Vs Non Eth Arioc's Needle

I have a 4/229 Eth Arioc, but found a 4/229 Non Eth running around so I figured I'd show this.

Eth doesn't seem necessary. It still destroys.

47K-85K For Ethereal
44K-76K For Non Ethereal

With 399% Phoenix
57K-105K Eth
54K-94K Non eth



This post was edited by d2rph on Apr 1 2026 08:22am
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Apr 1 2026 08:19am
yikes! yes looks like destruction either way
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Apr 1 2026 08:20am
I'll tell you an insane secret:

It's a bad meme weapon just like fort. Just use eth insight. You already one shot everything. Insight gives way more utility.

This post was edited by Emiliaaa on Apr 1 2026 08:20am
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Apr 1 2026 08:20am
Looks like ES is OP but I am no expert
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Apr 1 2026 08:21am
yea but that thing can carry a protector stone with no bug
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Apr 1 2026 08:30am
Eth Vs Non Eth Arioc's Needle

I have a 4/229 Eth Arioc, but found a 4/229 Non Eth running around so I figured I'd show this.

Eth doesn't seem necessary. It still destroys.

47K-85K For Ethereal
44K-76K For Non Ethereal

With 399% Phoenix
57K-105K Eth
54K-94K Non eth

https://i.imgur.com/AJY0Drv.jpeg


so, you realized that an eth arioc isn't needed because a non-eth arioc still destroys

wait til you realize that an arioc isn't needed at all because there are other superior weapons that also destroy
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Apr 1 2026 08:36am
so, you realized that an eth arioc isn't needed because a non-eth arioc still destroys

wait til you realize that an arioc isn't needed at all because there are other superior weapons that also destroy


People hear "this weapon does 2.152% more DPS than fortitude, which does 1.937% more DPS than insight" and they just zero in on that, regardless of which is actually better.

Insight, Death, Fort. Arioc's... It doesn't matter at all. You do hundreds of thousands of damage in one attack. Just use whichever one you have readily available, honestly. And usually that ends up being eth insight.

This post was edited by Emiliaaa on Apr 1 2026 08:38am
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Apr 1 2026 08:41am
i had an eth doom ca laying around, was just gonna use that
but chaos warlock so much fun i havent tried yet
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