Questions:
Seen conflicting information online. Need a dork to help.
I've got 8 clients and am about to waste many days on the grind.
Appreciate everyone's time in advance.
If this is already asked & resolved. Please link me the topic.

1) What causes "Draw the Ire of a Herald?" Is it:
a ) Killing the monster?
b ) Spawning monster by moving around the map?

2) What causes "A Herald is Hutning you in?" Is it:
a ) Killing the monster?
b ) Spawning monster by moving around the map?

3) Reference picture: Best way for Latent Sunder to drop is to play P8, then have all 8 characters present during the kill of the herald?


4) Reference Picture: Are these drop rates for all 8 characters present or just 1 character?


5) Reference Picture: Has anyone confirmed below?


This post was edited by d2rph on Mar 22 2026 05:38pm

I dont even know what herald is 😂

You need to

This is because

tracking cuz idk either

what is this below supposed to be a picture of?

1) a - 2% ire chance when killing elite (champ, unique, superunique, boss)

2) b - 1% chance to spawn an herald once you drew ire, for each new tile discovered

3) yes, best is party 8

4) the numbers below look like party 8 but 'p7-8' means players 7/8 and not party 8 usually. this is indeed confusing.

5) dont know.
but I remember saying his average Heralds per full TZ games was 15 or 16.
I feel like the numbers from this article might be a wee bit optimistic, but even if so, not by much.
You should expect on average, about 10 T5 kills per full TZ game. The article says about 12. Will it change your grind by much if it's 10 or 12 avg ? I doubt it, you'll grind anyways

hf

P8/1 = 14.29%
P8/8 = 1.64%

So 8 players in a game, only one player near the herald = 14.29% chance nothing will drop
So 8 players in a game, all eight players near the herald = 1.64% chance nothing will drop

So better to have all characters present.

Asking if this is correct. Found this pic online

Ty, If someone confirms this. My strategy is to kill until Ire, then teleport around not killing until herald spawns.
Then back track and kill to draw Ire again.

Need someone to confirm this theory.

p8/8 means 8 players in game, all partied together and in range of the kill so they share experience as it dies.
Having 8 players in game reduces the nodrop rate to 14.29% even if the other 7 players are sitting afk in town act 1
But to get that 1.64% nodrop rate you need all 8 players clustered around every kill, which is prohibitive for obvious reasons

And the difference between 1 player game and 8 player game is 128.56% more items, but the difference between 7 player game and p8/8 is only 14.76% more items
hence its not worth it to farm P8/8 under normal circumstances, but P8 is far easier to achieve (and you don't split the 450% experience)



Yes, but you must be opening new unexplored map cells, and in doing so you will spawn additional elites and should use them to draw ire
But at the same time, drawing ire twice in a row can mean spawning 2 heralds in a row before the first is killed, which results in 'wasting' the upgrade to the next herald tier
Hence it being very annoying

If you have full control over the game, you can designate certain areas to be unexplored and revealed only once you've drawn herald, so you can methodically teleport it in a lawnmower pattern, only using that area with ire active.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 22 2026 07:10pm