Hi guys,

I wont be mentioning names for now because this could be very well my problem.
I wanted to trade for the new unique charm " Black Cleft " - this in ladder ROW.
All good i traded for the charm and i got exactly - Black Cleft charm, however after i tried to craft on it nothing happened.
After checking i realized that in ROW season it should be "Latent Black Cleft" not only "Black cleft".

Are " Black Cleft " only dropping at all on ladder !? or i got scammed ?

the guys topic can be misinterpreted, but it looks like only converted (pre rotw) sunders are being sold, no new (latent) ones

e/ to add
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107764650&f=148


so all the new rollable ones wouldnt have a res roll listed

This post was edited by mesmerist on Mar 21 2026 11:12am

You didn’t get scammed, price you paid is fine for what it is. Latent costs like 800fg

thanks i checked it out on cooley channel as well. is my bad.

How much you pay, you got a normal LOD sunder that can’t be upgraded

That's no longer accurate. The latent ones have a variable res roll now.

you didn’t get scammed, you just didn’t know what you were buying

latent charms are the ones that can be crafted, regular ones are just the identified version with fixed rolls

you can end up with the non-latent version depending on how it was handled

nothing bugged here, just different states of the item

always check if it says “latent” before trading if your goal is crafting

This post was edited by tray_bad91 on Mar 21 2026 01:53pm

you can request a refund. Scammer accusation if not.

I personally wouldn't want to show up in that area for a simple mistake. Ether accused or accuser.