Is the +3 abyss useable by anyone other than locks?

yes
is it good? doubt

its just a crowd control ability on other toons.
But Abyss is Best in slot for Hammerdins this season i think.

better crowd control than the decrep? it has 35 charges...

im gonna try get/make one and replace my hoto.

This post was edited by C4NTWO on Mar 17 2026 08:17am

It's really not good at all, but is is a slight damage upgrade for hammerdins. (+15% magic damage over +1 skills). You gain 30% MF, but lose oak sage charges, 30-40 all resists, +1 skill.

The decripify charges are kinda pointless for a hdin? Maybe a little useful for heralds or something? Also, I wonder if abyss would be good for grouping mobs up for hammer spam? Lol.

Tbh could be fun to replace hoto on a bm hammerdin

Along with the decrepify curse and a slow ring with smite your stunlocks can be nasty as fuck

Would be funny to roll like a hammerdin with cleglaw, sling ring and arach with a berber coa 39% dr setup, you’ll have 2 sources of slow or 3 if you hardpoint holy freeze

You’ll still need wisp/natures cos oak is a must have

This post was edited by Stefbef on Mar 17 2026 08:20am

I can get to 23k hammer dmg not taking into account the - enemy magic resist gear on. with the new upgrades we got: Hellwarden, opalvein, slingring, new sunder....

Is hwardens really better than a 2/20 circ or shako for hammerdin? I'd assume so if you got a perfect -8% enemy magic?

I am pretty happy with the testing i think the -8 presents a higher gain than 1 skill.

In that case, how does gheed's wager.. wager? If you've tested it.

An extra 20frw/20fhr + -7% enemy magic might be worth it over +1 skill.