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Mar 5 2026 12:56am
Has anyone tested Guardian’s Thunder vs Lightning Facet on Mosaic Assassin?

On paper it looks like Guardian’s Thunder might actually be stronger than a 5/5 Lightning Facet, but I can’t really find any real testing or opinions about it.

For reference:

Lightning Facet (perfect):
• +5% lightning skill damage
• −5% enemy lightning resistance

Guardian’s Thunder can roll:
• +5–10% lightning skill damage
• −5–10% enemy lightning resistance
• adds lightning damage + some MF/XP bonuses. ()

So logically a 10/10 roll is basically like two facets in one socket (at least for the lightning modifiers).

Since Mosaic Assassin gets a lot of lightning damage from Phoenix Strike, I’m wondering if a high roll Guardian’s Thunder in something like Griffon’s or Shako would actually outperform a perfect facet.

But I can’t find any DPS tests or real build discussions about this yet.

Has anyone tested this in practice or done any calculations?
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Mar 5 2026 04:42am
I feel like it goes without saying that they are better than a facet, unless I'm missing something
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Mar 5 2026 05:43am
I feel like it goes without saying that they are better than a facet, unless I'm missing something


Nah you didn't miss anything, OP missed something

How could it not be better ?
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Mar 5 2026 06:05am
As a side note: charges 2&3 (nova and cb) from CoT and any charge from PS do not benefit from +ld. Focus on -lr. But yes -10lr is better than -5lr.
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Mar 5 2026 06:08am
It’s a strictly better facet. There isn’t a debate on this.
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Mar 5 2026 06:09am
Has anyone tested Guardian’s Thunder vs Lightning Facet on Mosaic Assassin?

On paper it looks like Guardian’s Thunder might actually be stronger than a 5/5 Lightning Facet, but I can’t really find any real testing or opinions about it.

For reference:

Lightning Facet (perfect):
• +5% lightning skill damage
• −5% enemy lightning resistance

Guardian’s Thunder can roll:
• +5–10% lightning skill damage
• −5–10% enemy lightning resistance
• adds lightning damage + some MF/XP bonuses. ()

So logically a 10/10 roll is basically like two facets in one socket (at least for the lightning modifiers).

Since Mosaic Assassin gets a lot of lightning damage from Phoenix Strike, I’m wondering if a high roll Guardian’s Thunder in something like Griffon’s or Shako would actually outperform a perfect facet.

But I can’t find any DPS tests or real build discussions about this yet.

Has anyone tested this in practice or done any calculations?


Dude, how should it NOT outperform a perfect facet? What are you talking about?
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Mar 5 2026 06:18am
Can someone check if 'up to 10' is potentially more than 5?
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Mar 5 2026 07:47am
Can someone check if 'up to 10' is potentially more than 5?


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Mar 5 2026 08:02am
-10lr > -5lr

+5ld > +10ld

+5/-10 is much betta mosaic jewel
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Mar 5 2026 08:29am
I also have a question. Is a 40ed jewel better than a 30ed jewel? Haven’t seen confirmation yet, gonna need someone to run some tests.
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