Hi guys,
I'm just too lazy to go through all the topics ... so can you please tell me whats the story with RotW and the sunders?
I'm playing LoD Expansion, didnt convert a single char yet. People here a buying any kind of trash sunders ... so where is the catch? They transfer them to RotW? But then Expansion sunder should be just the normal Expansion sunder or it become latent sunder?
Thanks in advance and dont judge me please, just check my nickname. Ta!

RotW sunders are extremely rare, as simple as that.

yes, i read that, but whats the Expansion sunder looks like once imported into RotW? Does it become latent sunder?

No, you can't craft them into renewed sunders.

so they are not latent, just the old regular sunders.. got it, thanks

I question whether this is true or whether demand simply exceeds supply for now

Unlike stuff like annis, a single person can farm rotw sunders. Players can only hold 1 copy. If you compare to anni/torch they always start out expensive and become worthless late season, to the point where people drop them for free in public games

I've heard that apparently on ladder you can find them from tier 1 heralds and the tier 4+ herald requirement may or may not be offline only

Can someone please confirm this? I've heard that sunders can only drop from 4+ lvl herald both online and offline. Solid information would help farming those sunders alot. Cheers

Not many people can farm sunders efficiently. Right now, almost all of the ones you've seen are random lucky drops.
To reliably farm them you have to do p8 full game clears with everyone near each other. This makes it far more likely that you'll see one (1 sunder: 60 heralds).

Only a tiny minority of the player base can coordinate that. Everyone else is limited to farming p1 tzs, which gets expensive when you look at average shard cost to see a sunder (1 sunder : 269 heralds : ~20-25 games clears : 100-125 shards).

Second, you have to commit the time to full game clears, which takes 3-5 hours depending on your build. This is out of reach of the casual player base, especially when they have to plan for ~20 game clears to see one sunder.

Third, the sunders for different elements vary in rarity, with fire/cold being the most common then lightning, then physical, and finally magic.
E.g., phys is just 3% of the drops. While you see fire and cold more often, the rest are pretty damn rare.

So, while you're right that demand exceeds supply, sunder availability can't be compared to annis and torches because it's not as simple as planning a dclone walk where everyone on the server can get an anni or solo farming keys and ubers, which have much higher drop rates and are easy to farm. Sunders are effectively going to be only lucky drops for now and for a long time imo. Most people aren't going to get to use one.

Edit: The reason you have to commit to full game clears is so that you maximize the number of t5 heralds. If you only do single acts, you'll get to t2 maybe 3 and lose out on a lot of potential drops.

This post was edited by unitedcows on Feb 26 2026 02:27pm