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Jun 18 2024 06:29am
Yo.
Just teoricrafting as usual. Its a wierd build. But could be fun. A bit BM as well sometimes.
The synergi is Hard physical psn dagger damage, with 72k psn damage on P dagger, telestaff, thorn's aura with Golem, oak and bonewall/prison to punnish melee guys and AMP xD

2nec/20fcr/visio/2soc adds with Cham + 15ias/15@
Eth fleshripper Zod + Phoenix 400
Naj's tele staff
Dungo
Trang oul's
Bramble
Gores
10fcr/ar/str/dex/mana/@ ring
Wisp
Highlord

67% Deadly strike
45% CB
60% OW
12 FPA dagger
60fhr
48fcr break
85fr/80lr/80cr/75pr/20% light abs/28 fire abs
3142 average physical damage(DS% included) with 45% CB, 60% OW, Amplify damage + 72717 poison damage over 16,4 seconds, which is double in hell. Cast LR if enemy flee after dagger.
70% slow with golem and fleshripper
Lvl 21 thorns with amp and summons to litterally kill barbs in 1 wirl, and smiters in 1-2 hits on summons.
Max syntenergized bone armor, but lvl 1 base skill itself.
15% DR
50% block
13775 ar, with -50% enemy defense

Did some fast calculation. That psn damage alone in hell vs a -100% PLR enemy having 75psn res will kill 6181 life over 32,8 seconds. You can mitigate around 60plr with LR curse. And if lucky break him below 75pr.

Ofc there are many other options, like wiz, fool's, enigma, spirit/stormshield/hommu etc.
Just wanted something with nice physical damage, annoying amp, thorns and slow xD Decreaphysi may be used as well xD

Edit, planner dont show correct psn damage, and the physical damage i wrote is average calculated:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/9n1sf0vf

This post was edited by gel87 on Jun 18 2024 06:48am
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Jun 18 2024 06:33am
Quote (gel87 @ Jun 18 2024 09:29am)
Yo.
Just teoricrafting as usual. Its a wierd build. But could be fun. A bit BM as well sometimes.
The synergi is Hard physical psn dagger damage, with 72k psn damage on P dagger, telestaff, thorn's aura with Golem, oak and bonewall/prison to punnish melee guys and AMP xD

2nec/20fcr/visio/2soc adds with Cham + 15ias/15@
Eth fleshripper Zod + Phoenix 400
Naj's tele staff
Dungo
Trang oul's
Bramble
Gores
10fcr/ar/str/dex/mana/@ ring
Wisp
Highlord

67% Deadly strike
45% CB
60% OW
12 FPA dagger
60fhr
48fcr break
85fr/80lr/80cr/75pr/20% light abs/28 fire abs
3142 average physical damage(DS% included) with 45% CB, 60% OW, Amplify damage + 72717 poison damage over 16,4 seconds, which is double in hell. Cast LR if enemy flee after dagger.
70% slow with golem and fleshripper
Lvl 21 thorns with amp and summons to litterally kill barbs in 1 wirl, and smiters in 1-2 hits on summons.
Max syntenergized bone armor, but lvl 1 base skill itself.
15% DR
50% block
13775 ar, with -50% enemy defense

Did some fast calculation. That psn damage alone in hell vs a -100% PLR enemy having 75psn res will kill 6181 life over 32,8 seconds. You can mitigate around 60plr with LR curse. And if lucky break him below 75pr.

Ofc there are many other options, like wiz, fool's, enigma, spirit/stormshield/hommu etc.
Just wanted something with nice physical damage, annoying amp, thorns and slow xD Decreaphysi may be used as well xD


I think most chars will nuke you as soon as you even try to hit them tbh. Doesn’t really matter if you have max dr etc on necro, you still have a low health pool and no dodge/weap block mitigation so you’re the squishiest class in the game by far and getting close is instant death in most cases

This post was edited by Void511 on Jun 18 2024 06:35am
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Jun 18 2024 06:41am
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I think most chars will nuke you as soon as you even try to hit them tbh. Doesn’t really matter if you have max dr etc on necro, you still have a low health pool and no dodge/weap block mitigation so you’re the squishiest class in the game by far and getting close is instant death in most cases


Yes that is very true in many cases.
Ele druid would ofc be a pain to deal with.
Decrepicy and the fact that melee has to be carefull to not suicide themselves on ur prison/summons makes it better for urself.
The absorb is on spot for most other. Except cold and foh ofc.
Bow would be a pain as well. But you only need to land 1 hit, then firegolem and lr xD

Yes not a super build, but could be fun xD
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Jun 18 2024 06:48am
I guess it’s fun but will it ever beat a poison dagger assa :P

I personally have a max venom spider (I know it ain’t great) and a 102 fcr psn dagger swap setup ^^ does about 120k dmg with -100 plr

This post was edited by Stefbef on Jun 18 2024 06:50am
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I guess it’s fun but will it ever beat a poison dagger assa :P


No, psn dagger sin its more flexible, and easier to get high damage. But currently playing dagger nec singleplayer and my brain just keeps going all the time. If i don't write down something it never stops xD
Same happened when i was tuning a 66cc suzuki tsx. I went true all from high quality flow and portmap optimalisation, compression and optimal design, angle of piston rod enchancment, turbo, water injection, formulas, etc... Even went so far i bought turbo and efi kit.
Could not sleep before i had written down all my plans, basicly had to learn a lot math from scratch as i did not bother much on school xD
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Jun 18 2024 07:01am
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No, psn dagger sin its more flexible, and easier to get high damage. But currently playing dagger nec singleplayer and my brain just keeps going all the time. If i don't write down something it never stops xD
Same happened when i was tuning a 66cc suzuki tsx. I went true all from high quality flow and portmap optimalisation, compression and optimal design, angle of piston rod enchancment, turbo, water injection, formulas, etc... Even went so far i bought turbo and efi kit.
Could not sleep before i had written down all my plans, basicly had to learn a lot math from scratch as i did not bother much on school xD


Lmao I can relate with this kinda crap, sometimes the theorycrafts just keep coming and coming. It’s like heroin to me😦

Do you think we have autism, gel?
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Jun 18 2024 07:12am
67% Deadly strike
45% CB
60% OW

that n amp would just be a waste.

all you'll be doing anyway is to pray for the first hit and then pussying around while the poison ticks away, much like a nova nec
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Quote (Stefbef @ Jun 18 2024 03:01pm)
Lmao I can relate with this kinda crap, sometimes the theorycrafts just keep coming and coming. It’s like heroin to me😦

Do you think we have autism, gel?


Either that or ADD xD

Quote (Dolphy @ Jun 18 2024 03:12pm)
67% Deadly strike
45% CB
60% OW

that n amp would just be a waste.

all you'll be doing anyway is to pray for the first hit and then pussying around while the poison ticks away, much like a nova nec


Yes, but more fun. Lets say a barb decide to zerk you inside bonewall cover. You decrepichy him to bring him down from his 9fpa zerk.
Ur golem and fleshripper adds extra slow.
You have bone armor and 50% block, not that bone armor will help vs zerk though xD
Suddenly you find urself in a melee duel you can win, and barb has to accept defeated by a melee necro xD

It's kinda like my trapsin on asgard. It was full normal trap, but with BERBER/5ctc/fool's claw and gores. I kicked down BVC, Wolf etc with that build without even using traps for fun. Ele druid as well. Remember one guy quite annoyed at his team for letting me sin litterally kick down his ele druid mid fight xD

It's a troll/fun build, can just build a bone nec and have more success.

This post was edited by gel87 on Jun 18 2024 07:35am
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Jun 18 2024 08:07am
Okay, here is PSN focused build then....

Idea: Treachury + soj + demon limb + mara in cube. (level 15 venom 25% chance to cast, a bit bm but will result in 27k psn damage add on psn dagger alone. (can also cast fade for fun, and str requirement for stormshield is not high enought with treachury so easy fade)
11 FPA dagger.

Diadem:
2nec, 20fcr, 30frw, visio, 2 soc add 'cham + 15ias/15@'
Rare Fanged Knife: 2nec/40ias/fool's/20min/2 psn facets + Stormshield 15ias/15@
Enigma
Shadow dancers/Hots/Whatever
Trang ouls
Arach
Wisp
10fcr/ar/dex/life/mana/@ ring or raven

Torch
Annie
Cube
9 x 20/5@ scs
9 x pnb 45

Stashed: Wiz 15ias/30cr and 15ias/15@, Jmod 20/-20, Spirit 35, Hommu, Sanctuary, raven, carrions, sands, hots, aldurs, craft boots, TG, Dungo

Poison dagger psn damage: 78,5k over 18,8 seconds
Poison dagger physical damage: Irrelevant
Attackrating poison dagger: 3013 * (1+((218+850)/100)) = 35,2 k

Max block
30fhr (can be adjusted)
75fcr break (125 with wiz or spirit)
43% DR and 75@ without the fade.
-71 enemy PR
11 fpa
Oak
20% light abs

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/s41x70vj

Nova damage if u must:
9,55k to 9,85k

Spirit/Firegolem/Teeth/Bone spear to finnish of last life.


Let me know if any1 want FULL Trang Oul Version xD

This post was edited by gel87 on Jun 18 2024 08:11am
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Quote (gel87 @ Jun 18 2024 10:07am)
Okay, here is PSN focused build then....

Idea: Treachury + soj + demon limb + mara in cube. (level 15 venom 25% chance to cast, a bit bm but will result in 27k psn damage add on psn dagger alone. (can also cast fade for fun, and str requirement for stormshield is not high enought with treachury so easy fade)
11 FPA dagger.

Diadem:
2nec, 20fcr, 30frw, visio, 2 soc add 'cham + 15ias/15@'
Rare Fanged Knife: 2nec/40ias/fool's/20min/2 psn facets + Stormshield 15ias/15@
Enigma
Shadow dancers/Hots/Whatever
Trang ouls
Arach
Wisp
10fcr/ar/dex/life/mana/@ ring or raven

Torch
Annie
Cube
9 x 20/5@ scs
9 x pnb 45

Stashed: Wiz 15ias/30cr and 15ias/15@, Jmod 20/-20, Spirit 35, Hommu, Sanctuary, raven, carrions, sands, hots, aldurs, craft boots, TG, Dungo

Poison dagger psn damage: 78,5k over 18,8 seconds
Poison dagger physical damage: Irrelevant
Attackrating poison dagger: 3013 * (1+((218+850)/100)) = 35,2 k

Max block
30fhr (can be adjusted)
75fcr break (125 with wiz or spirit)
43% DR and 75@ without the fade.
-71 enemy PR
11 fpa
Oak
20% light abs

https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/s41x70vj

Nova damage if u must:
9,55k to 9,85k

Spirit/Firegolem/Teeth/Bone spear to finnish of last life.


Let me know if any1 want FULL Trang Oul Version xD



Trang’s with FRW BPs. Super broken lmao
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