now my pala is 94 and man 94-95 feels like 98-99 on sin legit

im getting maybe 1.5-2 mio per game while my sin got 1.5 mio at 98

playing hdin atm and doing specific TZ's if needed (not lvling all the time)

would foh be better? or have people tried out other stuff than crappy hdin (it feels useless for TZ)

i've even considered bow pala with demon machine holy fire, (99% pierce and explosive shots, but dmg sucks compared to the sorc variant)

considered like an auradin zeal setup but fuck that one also ass

is foh much better than hammer vs undead zones?

My mosaic sin was 86% from 96 to 97. She did TZ wsk2-3-throne-baal for 45 minutes, gaining 14% exp and dinging on baal.

My hdin was 80% from 96 to 97. He did TZ chaos for 60 minutes, gaining 14% experience.

Both chars are mf oriented and not in the best dmg-xp farming gear


also foh is not better at hammerdin at all on higher playercounts anywhere

I 99ed my pangolin with holy grail in CS, occasionally tomb TZ.

works but takes time, is fun though, caught up on a lot of movies

edit: oh yeah, if you do players8 hammerdin might be your only choice

This post was edited by spjsschl on Dec 18 2023 10:16am

Perfect example of why I haven’t and won’t be making a mosaic sin, I’m sorry for your loss bro

Foh isn’t better than hdin but it’s new and shiny so people like it

that gives me a little bit of hope, i also feel like 94-95 or 95-96 96-97 and 97-98 is barely any difference in time spent

honestly i'll be happy with 96 or maybe 97 on my pala so i can turn him into a pvp v/t :>



yes tombs are nice but europe has nice p8 tzbaals and theyre like 2 min per run, so i gotta deal with most commmon terror zones



man dont ever do it, if anything level ur assa as last char

i think i could have done 98-99 in a day

at some point i got like 1.5 bar in 1 hour from halls TZ and my peak was 1.9 mio in 1 run from a flayer jungle TZ with exp shrine (didnt get to test wsk/tombs/river)

1.9 mio at 98 just feels disgusting in 2 minutes

Paladin isn't good at killing lots of shit quickly. At least not compared to the real fast killers like sorcs, zons and especially the mosaic sin
Would just recommend picking a spec you actually like to play and play it a lot. Personally I got my pally to 99 as an auradin; swapping between dream zealot and dragondin (same spec so I didn't have to use a token every time I wanted a different playstyle). I levelled kinda quickly just from the sheer amount of kills you get from those specs. I did a LOT of crystalline passage/glacial trail/ancients way TZ farming. Very underrated TZs, give lots of XP and for a paladin they're not super dangerous because you're tanky.

those are nice tz's yeah

but doesnt auradin deal shit damage ?

Static + nova
Javazon
Mosaic

Paladin can't really compete with these three for P8 clear speed

Hammerdin can compete with any other build, except in tombs

What about multi static pala with dreams:

2x dream pala
Schaefer’s hammer 20% static with zeal
Act 5 merc with frenzy and 2x cmoon with treachery for ias and static

Combined with -150 convi for some good static dmg

Anyone tried this? xD

This post was edited by Stefbef on Dec 18 2023 11:01am

Cannot compete with the 3 builds I listed in P8, it's not close tbh

Hammerdin is the highest DPS option paladin can play in PVM. FoH is good for low player count