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Jan 25 2024 03:37pm
i highly doubt the folks getting banned and re-buying copies of the game has any major impact on Blizz's profit margins. that's pennies and peanuts. too much of a hollywood motive being applied to incompetent corporate nonsense.
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Jan 25 2024 03:40pm
Quote (sukz0ne @ Jan 25 2024 01:37pm)
i highly doubt the folks getting banned and re-buying copies of the game has any major impact on Blizz's profit margins. that's pennies and peanuts. too much of a hollywood motive being applied to incompetent corporate nonsense.


Sure, but I'm sure there's an ability to detect and run a ban wave more often.

I've always thought that there's a ryhtm to it and it makes sense, long enough to let botters profit off keys, but short enough to maximize wave of key buying.

It's true, they make most of their reoccurring D2r revenue off bot keys

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Quote (sukz0ne @ Jan 25 2024 03:37pm)
i highly doubt the folks getting banned and re-buying copies of the game has any major impact on Blizz's profit margins. that's pennies and peanuts. too much of a hollywood motive being applied to incompetent corporate nonsense.



Not even remotely true. Small time botters have around 50 keys at any given time, and have rebought about 8 times since the inception of d2r. That’s 400 keys. Or a 400:1 key ratio on a person to person basis.

Medium time botters have 51-250 keys at any given time.

Large scale botters have 251-2000.

Very large scale have 2001-25000.



They are the ones driving most of the profit margin.
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Jan 25 2024 03:43pm
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i highly doubt the folks getting banned and re-buying copies of the game has any major impact on Blizz's profit margins. that's pennies and peanuts. too much of a hollywood motive being applied to incompetent corporate nonsense.


It does matter especially for d2r considering there’s no official in game store where items can be bought for irl currency this would be the only way they make money I am sure they can run ban waves improve detection and so forth but ultimately this is the only way they profit from the game ppl buy thousands and thousands of keys when they go on sale because they know they’ll get their moneys worth if they get insta banned nobody would bother and game sales will drop massively
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Jan 25 2024 03:45pm
Using this reoccurring bot banning revenue model is what keeps the servers up, ladder resets happening and the minor content changes(not improvements as blizzard has patch after patch fucked d2r up more and more, from their start of announcing me.HasLessIQThanALlama as the face of the game).

Thank the bots for keeping the servers up and enabling d2unmastered to even happen
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Jan 25 2024 03:47pm
if talking profitability of D2R alone and not looking at the profits generated by all the other games, sure. drops in the bucket when you compare that to the active battle.net catalog. big picture not worth their billable labor hours.
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Jan 25 2024 04:30pm
I’d duel them

no1 else is skilled enough to bm duel these days
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Jan 25 2024 04:47pm
To be fair what your taking about is just chat bots paired with Diablo bots. We've been calling things AI for a long time that aren't even remotely close to actual AI and not much has changed on that front. Modern AI is just applied everywhere now because people are dumb as hell and it is currently effective for marketing things to morons. Even if a program were made right now that could pass a Turing test (and we are likely decades to centuries from that) it still wouldn't be AI, it would be a program designed to defeat a Turing test.
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Quote (TheWeedian @ Jan 25 2024 02:47pm)
To be fair what your taking about is just chat bots paired with Diablo bots. We've been calling things AI for a long time that aren't even remotely close to actual AI and not much has changed on that front. Modern AI is just applied everywhere now because people are dumb as hell and it is currently effective for marketing things to morons. Even if a program were made right now that could pass a Turing test (and we are likely decades to centuries from that) it still wouldn't be AI, it would be a program designed to defeat a Turing test.


You're out of date bro, chatgpt easily passes the turing test right now. Try it if you haven't already, it's free.

Turing tests are no longer considered useful because we passed that point a decade ago

Edit: one source
https://spectrum.ieee.org/turing-test

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Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ Jan 25 2024 05:40pm)
Yeh Blizz would ban hammer it eventually tho

Most fun I had on d2 ever was playing around w kolbot on LOD

honestly, same
some haters gonna call it "cheating" or whatever but they just have no idea
like, was running solo self found p8 games, not even trading, not even selling, just, gaming and actually having real gaming fun

like, at this point it's nothing to do with cheating but just a different type of game and game experience, in itself is just fun to build a whole 8 characters team and figuring ways to let them do their thing in the best way possible, keeping upgrading their gear and all
in a way it always reminded me of those warcraft 3 tower defense with like, the towers automatically clearing the waves (bots killing the mobs), generating the golds to upgrade the towers (dropping items to make the characters stronger)

and if not a morning person that needs that coffee before anything, waking up and seeing what fun drops they been getting during the night is something that be making the day a little bit brighter right of the start

i miss it, but it was also a massive pain in some aspects
like, the main reason i even started to check on the botting aspect in the first place was because blizzard wasnt even allowing us to play the proper legit way...
also.. just so dumb to not allow "vpns", like, every youtuber, their grandma and their grandma's dog are shilling vpn but no can't do on LoD...
anyways, back then only had 1 cdkey, no bot no nothing but kept getting realm down, temp ban and all literally because playing legit and doing countess runs or baal runs or whatever "too fast"
but the bots had the integrated timers to prevent getting realm down, so... thanks blizzard for pushing us into trying a different game experience i guess..?

but when scaling with more cdkeys it becomes a bit more tricky
so had to do the whole residential ip proxies instead, rotate cdkeys and whatnot, which again was because of those restrictions against actual legit players, like, for awhile was even playing legit without botting or what with partner at the time, so, same ip address and we kept having those issues because we were playing legit, so dumb...

anyways, i guess there was a point in my life that ended up just getting sick of blizzard bullshits and moved to a same gaming experience but for the irl
bots killing the mobs (computers mining cryptocoin blocks), dropping items to make the characters stronger (getting those block rewards to purchase more computers for more mining power and keep scaling)
and when solo-mining rather than mining in a pool, it's a similar rng experience when waking up and being like "oh yay, solo-mined a whole block during the night! neat! made the day a little bit brighter right of the start"

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