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Oct 9 2022 06:10am
Quote (shrubberies @ 9 Oct 2022 04:04)
Our team (MQT) surpassed Llama and Teo this current ladder
around level 91-93 only doing baalruns. At higher levels tho this should be true.


Quote (wing_fighter2 @ 9 Oct 2022 04:19)
Baal games are still faster and less effort. It’s all going to revert back to normal in about 2 weeks.

Bots run late game….


Yes, but I think on 96+ it might be better to run TZ. Maybe earlier.
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Oct 9 2022 06:24am
I thought when we did the math it was pretty clear that terror zones were not good for xp until level 94+ and around level 98 we're talking like 40x faster than baal runs

level 85/88 monsters give you a % xp penalty based on mlvl vs clvl (not counting the global clvl modifier) of:

90: 100/100%
91: 80.9/100%
92: 62.1/100%
93: 43.0/100%
94: 23.8/80.9%
95: 5.1/62.1%
96: 5.1/43.0%
97: 5.1/23.8%
98: 5.1/5.1%

and of course, in terror zones you get 100% experience at that penalty stage for each level since you're never past the clvl-5 range.
Terror zones have slightly higher base XP because of the increased monster level but all the sparse areas are obviously going to give less overall base experience than a high density chaos/baal run even with a slight buff from TZ
once you're in that level 95 range and getting about 1/20 xp from trash mobs, you could really see a difference with terror zones.


but again, that means none of this actually helps you until you're trying to level up from 95->96 and then its still a boring very slow grind and not whatsoever worth it for any practical purpose, so it begs the question of why
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Oct 9 2022 06:43am
Some explain this to me like I'm a golden retriever
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Oct 9 2022 06:49am
Quote (Druidika @ Oct 9 2022 02:10pm)
Yes, but I think on 96+ it might be better to run TZ. Maybe earlier.


Around 95 according to our testing it starts to shift
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Quote (Returner @ Oct 9 2022 02:43pm)
Some explain this to me like I'm a golden retriever


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Quote (Returner @ 9 Oct 2022 14:43)
Some explain this to me like I'm a golden retriever


Until 15 1/2 years old you bark snip snap doggo (not the woof bork one)

Beyond 15 1/2 years you follow your seven humans and chew on bones, bark all other animals and bite demons
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Quote (Druidika @ Oct 9 2022 06:34pm)
Until 15 1/2 years old you bark snip snap doggo (not the woof bork one)

Beyond 15 1/2 years you follow your seven humans and chew on bones, bark all other animals and bite demons



so 95 in tz is better then baal runs?
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Quote (HMF @ 12 Oct 2022 09:00)
so 95 in tz is better then baal runs?


I did not crunch the numbers on this. I only observed it for 98.

Quote (Goomshill @ 9 Oct 2022 14:24)
I thought when we did the math it was pretty clear that terror zones were not good for xp until level 94+ and around level 98 we're talking like 40x faster than baal runs

level 85/88 monsters give you a % xp penalty based on mlvl vs clvl (not counting the global clvl modifier) of:

90: 100/100%
91: 80.9/100%
92: 62.1/100%
93: 43.0/100%
94: 23.8/80.9%
95: 5.1/62.1%
96: 5.1/43.0%
97: 5.1/23.8%
98: 5.1/5.1%

and of course, in terror zones you get 100% experience at that penalty stage for each level since you're never past the clvl-5 range.
Terror zones have slightly higher base XP because of the increased monster level but all the sparse areas are obviously going to give less overall base experience than a high density chaos/baal run even with a slight buff from TZ
once you're in that level 95 range and getting about 1/20 xp from trash mobs, you could really see a difference with terror zones.


but again, that means none of this actually helps you until you're trying to level up from 95->96 and then its still a boring very slow grind and not whatsoever worth it for any practical purpose, so it begs the question of why


He did this :)
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Oct 12 2022 12:21pm
how much exp/min is a baalrun with nihal and dia kill with 8 players at level 98?

This post was edited by FartEnjoyer on Oct 12 2022 12:23pm
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Quote (FartEnjoyer @ Oct 12 2022 08:21pm)
how much exp/min is a baalrun with nihal and dia kill with 8 players at level 98?


Without terrorzone it's around 85000

If u do it in a 8 ppl game solo 110k

Fast runs go around 3 mins

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