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The first fishing hooks known to men was made of bones, and the necromancer shaman had a huge role back then according to JAH rune scripted into rocks on the shorelines of europe.
Therefore this build is named Fishymancer, as this was such a huge leap in the human evolvement.

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It was possible in LoD
D2R was like 1 season old when I explained the logic behind how HS could have a very small chance of rolling back then.
Yes I was wrong back then and admitted it after further researches.
Me being wrong once about a new game where the game files changed doesn’t mean shit anymore, get over it.

Nice attempt to change to a new subject after being completely wrong once more :)


125fcr > 5%

Come again
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Feb 28 2025 10:51am
125fcr > 5%

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lol you really think 1 frame faster cast is superior to a significant dps increase on a summoner 😅
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Feb 28 2025 11:20am
125fcr > 5%

Come again


Here's why you are completely wrong, like always :

I repeat, this build is dedicated to play on p1 or p3, running high density areas.
You take the wp to the current TZ and you start farming right away.
This is not a build suited to hunt bosses or do some rushes.
You are constantly doing the same :
amp - telestomp - CE - next

125% fcr means you gain 1 frame between amp and telestomp.
You cannot cast CE right away, your merc needs the kill first.
You gain another frame between CE and the next tele.

Amp's radius is so big that you basically cast it only once per 2 packs.
We're now at 2.5 frames gained per 2 packs, compared to a 75fcr build.

Let's assume we kill on average 30 packs per TZ runs...
that's 2.5 * 15 = 37.5
and let's add some extra 30 tele per run (30 * 1 frame) for general mouvement.
You just saved 67.5 frames
That's 2.7 seconds

Now what did we lose on the other hand by not using FF?
Andy is by very far the best helm for your merc (guillaume's would be an option if you tried to make this build work on p8, but that's a very stupid idea)
Without a fire res jewel, he will die from time to time, and you can't run without him like other builds.
That's already way more than 2.7s lost per run.
So you use a 15ias/30fire jewel instead of a 15ias/40ed
That's a 3.5% dps loss, directly translated in 3.5% slower kill speed per pack (you know? That delay where you have to wait for the merc kill before casting CE?)
That's also more time required to summon your army each new game.
Right here you already lost way more than 2.7s AGAIN

But that's not all
That 5% fire pen loss also happens to greatly improve the odds of your CE to fail at 1-hit killing stuff.
Yup
The maximized build achieves a threshold where you're just very slightly doing above 100% of the mobs hp with 1 CE.
Lose only 5% fire pen and suddenly its very frequent that your CE was sadly lacking that final little bit of dmg required to kill.
You end up casting CE way more often.
Each extra CE needed is 9 more frames lost.
That alone is also way more time lost per game than that 2.7s

But wait! That's not over!
You also lost your resist fire aura
Anyone who played a summoner knows how fire dmg is the only thing that kills your skellies and IG.
They get instantly bursted by stuff like venom lords' inferno or diablo's spells
We're not talking about seconds here, but minutes lost.
Your run is basically over whenever this happens... and it happens quite often without FF.

Come again
noob :rofl:

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lol you really think 1 frame faster cast is superior to a significant dps increase on a summoner 😅


It’s not a significant DPS increase when you can have 2 facets. It’s only -5%. The difference in total of physical and fire damage when you’re running both sunders is small.
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Feb 28 2025 11:22am
Here's why you are completely wrong, like always :

I repeat, this build is dedicated to play on p1 or p3, running high density areas.
You take the wp to the current TZ and you start farming right away.
This is not a build suited to hunt bosses or do some rushes.
You are constantly doing the same :
amp - telestomp - CE - next

125% fcr means you gain 1 frame between amp and telestomp.
You cannot cast CE right away, your merc needs the kill first.
You gain another frame between CE and the next tele.

Amp's radius is so big that you basically cast it only once per 2 packs.
We're now at 2.5 frames gained per 2 packs, compared to a 75fcr build.

Let's assume we kill on average 30 packs per TZ runs...
that's 2.5 * 15 = 37.5
and let's add some extra 30 tele per run (30 * 1 frame) for general mouvement.
You just saved 67.5 frames
That's 2.7 seconds

Now what did we lose on the other hand by not using FF?
Andy is by very far the best helm for your merc (guillaume's would be an option if you tried to make this build work on p8, but that's a very stupid idea)
Without a fire res jewel, he will die from time to time, and you can't run without him like other builds.
That's already way more than 2.7s lost per run.
So you use a 15ias/30fire jewel instead of a 15ias/40ed
That's a 3.5% dps loss, directly translated in 3.5% slower kill speed per pack (you know? That delay where you have to wait for the merc kill before casting CE?)
That's also more time required to summon your army each new game.
Right here you already lost way more than 2.7s AGAIN

But that's not all
That 5% fire pen loss also happens to greatly improve the odds of your CE to fail at 1-hit killing stuff.
Yup
The maximized build achieves a threshold where you're just very slightly doing above 100% of the mobs hp with 1 CE.
Lose only 5% fire pen and suddenly its very frequent that your CE was sadly lacking that final little bit of dmg required to kill.
You end up casting CE way more often.
Each extra CE needed is 9 more frames lost.
That alone is also way more time lost per game than that 2.7s

But wait! That's not over!
You also lost your resist fire aura
Anyone who played a summoner knows how fire dmg is the only thing that kills your skellies and IG.
They get instantly bursted by stuff like venom lords' inferno or diablo's spells
We're not talking about seconds here, but minutes lost.
Your run is basically over whenever this happens... and it happens quite often without FF.

Come again
noob :rofl:


Horrible ideas again. You’re going to pick Andy’s over Gface then it’s not even a discussion. That’s straight up noob. If that’s the case then put FF on Merc.

Too long didn’t read like all the crap builds you have on your profile.

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Horrible ideas again. You’re going to pick Andy’s over Gface then it’s not even a discussion. That’s straight up noob. If that’s the case then put FF on Merc.

Too long didn’t read like all the crap builds you have on your profile.


Just go and compare the kill time shown on maxroll if you switch andy to guillaume's, vs ANY target on p1 to p3
It also lose 2 lvl of might on top of that (not that your summons are really relevant)
And suddenly you have zero sustain on the merc
Still think its a good idea?
I repeat, you can't keep running if merc is dead.

You shall forever be known as a low IQ noob by the whole jsp community
congratz :thumbsup:

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Feb 28 2025 11:32am
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Feb 28 2025 11:29am
Its a term used for builds that optimize CE over summons.

95% of your dmg is CE
4.99% is merc
0.01% are summons

So building a pure summoner is a ridiculous idea.
Go fishymancer :)


You’re the guy that says mercs deal way more damage than summons. I guess psn nova and summoners have same boss kill speed according to you.

Just go and compare the kill time shown on maxroll if you switch andy to guillaume's, vs ANY target on p1 to p3

You shall forever be known as a low IQ noob by the whole jsp community
congratz :thumbsup:


Small difference when you have to account for skeleton DPS.

This post was edited by Tarisus on Feb 28 2025 11:31am
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https://i.imgflip.com/9lthwp.jpg


build what you want. having fun is all that matters.


God I haven’t seen this base meme in a while. It’s an old classic for sure.
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