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Jan 30 2024 07:44pm
Quote (Loki15 @ Jan 29 2024 04:46pm)
Nobody only mfing/pvm - can pvp because they are smacked tf up against us jsp’ers who are more serious about the game, this they dont even try to get better or are willing to put $100s if not $1000s into d2r to compete.

Or they are unwilling to convert there items into fg over a few seasons to build wealth. They want to stay in a bronze lobby mentality forever


Those PVM peasant's and their.. " scratches head.. "

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Unwillingness to spend $100's to be as cool as my pvp character...

Those pixels are cool tho, sucks it's come down to some sort of measuring contest, that's one thing I truly miss about old school Diablo 2..

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Back in the days, you'd just join up in the PVP and high majority were just self found and game traded toons


Today's join up game and you get outmatched by a majority of people who don't mf or trade at all, it's just old money forum gold, kind of ruins the dynamic

Whereas back in the days, the duels were wild, the variance between toons was hilarious and more fun match ups, more rediculously strong toons, like guided bowa, made 7v1 games, etc, those were the best days of my d2 career
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Quote (dannywanghere @ Jan 29 2024 11:59am)
Show me one piece of evidence that isn't you making stuff up. Lol at botter "metrics"

Here's evidence that PVM carries D2R
- open up the game and count the number of dueling games vs the number of PVM games (baal, leveling, MF, etc)
- look at D2R patches. Every change ever made for D2R was made for PVM, blizzard hasn't made even one change that was purely prioritizing PVP
- look at D3/D4
- go to sites that aren't JSP and use common sense


i think you are both right. that's really the part of d2 that differentiates it between shitty poe's PVP (and other arpgs that don't have it). the way pvp and pvm can be cycled with players offers a far more satisfying experience than just a good ol pve arpg

it seems like that part came in by Max Schaefer when he said "I still think that every time I play in an aRPG, I want to know who would win in a fight between me and another guy.". the current arpgs on the market don't really share this mindset (that i know of). it's integral and a pillar to the arpg experience. poe failed miserably at it, and a few others

d3 almost got it with their pvp trailers and stuff but a) they baited us with that, and b\) had a lot more issues at hand, sadly

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Jan 30 2024 08:40pm
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New patches notes! Lmk thanks

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Quote (AFloridian @ Jan 29 2024 08:17am)
+1 this


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