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Jul 1 2022 04:20pm
I am taken hostage by my GF tonight but a good guy in blizzard forums (Ubeogesh) did extensive tests:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t/update-whirlwind-breakpoints-for-all-single-wielding-1h-and-2h-weapons/136394

Have a look there.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Jul 1 2022 04:23pm
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Jul 1 2022 04:47pm
yay :thumbsup:
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Jul 1 2022 04:50pm
Quote (babun1024 @ 2 Jul 2022 00:20)
I am taken hostage by my GF tonight but a good guy in blizzard forums (Ubeogesh) did extensive tests:
https://i.ibb.co/mGQDzhC/WW-table.png
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t/update-whirlwind-breakpoints-for-all-single-wielding-1h-and-2h-weapons/136394

Have a look there.


What he means no longer unavailable ?
It seems unavailable if 5 fpa is the max....
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Jul 1 2022 04:55pm
Quote (Ognadibik @ Jul 2 2022 12:50am)
What he means no longer unavailable ?
It seems unavailable if 5 fpa is the max....


It means all 2 handers except for swords can't hit 4fpa anymore however he didn't test with a faith act5 merc like I did. My BOTD thundermaul got to 4fpa with 125ias in total and lvl15 fana aura. The numbers on his table are for no outside aura and no decrepify/holy freeze slowing one down. Also, frenzy does speed up WW now, by a LOT.

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Jul 1 2022 05:07pm
Looks like BOTD GPA still at a sweet spot for MF
60 + 20 (highlord's)+ 10 (goldwrap) = 90ias, right at the 0 base speed 5fpa 89ias BP
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Jul 1 2022 06:41pm
Quote (Coldbringer @ Jul 1 2022 06:07pm)
Looks like BOTD GPA still at a sweet spot for MF
60 + 20 (highlord's)+ 10 (goldwrap) = 90ias, right at the 0 base speed 5fpa 89ias BP


What about using a 2H EBOTD Colossus Blade? Seems like this is might be the only way to go if you want to use a two handed weapon since you can still hit 4 FPA if I'm understanding this all correctly.
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Quote (babun1024 @ Jul 1 2022 03:55pm)
It means all 2 handers except for swords can't hit 4fpa anymore however he didn't test with a faith act5 merc like I did. My BOTD thundermaul got to 4fpa with 125ias in total and lvl15 fana aura. The numbers on his table are for no outside aura and no decrepify/holy freeze slowing one down. Also, frenzy does speed up WW now, by a LOT.



Oh good to know my ik barb needs a faith merc to reach the 4fpa it previously did…
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Jul 1 2022 06:52pm
Quote (rifkk @ Jul 1 2022 05:41pm)
What about using a 2H EBOTD Colossus Blade? Seems like this is might be the only way to go if you want to use a two handed weapon since you can still hit 4 FPA if I'm understanding this all correctly.



Yup. Barbs are pretty much locked to swords if going 2handed. This also means Ik (which was always mediocre but an ole reliable) is now obsolete and unplayable like most other sets now. Not only has IK been nerfed by about 20%, you also need an additional 45 ias even with the maul WITH 2 shaels in it. Factoring in the gloves, you still need 20% ias. That means say goodbye to your helmet slots which would otherwise be used for mf topazes, now need 15ias jewels, JUST to get 1 frame less than it used to. Yea you could also use a highlords, but IK is a early ladder set. Angelics is better and easier to acquire and use. Nope. Now you’re hardlocked to highlords/cats eye or ias jewels in the helm.

Pathetic.

This post was edited by Jpgriever74 on Jul 1 2022 07:00pm
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Jul 1 2022 07:11pm
Basically they did the wolf thing.
The only upside is that dual grief is considerably improved compared to last patch.
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Jul 1 2022 07:23pm
Quote (LordHextor @ Jul 1 2022 06:11pm)
Basically they did the wolf thing.
The only upside is that dual grief is considerably improved compared to last patch.



“It amounts to a necessary evil. We nerfed an underperforming set (IK) and 2h set ups, so that Grief could be *more* viable. We believe this will make ww a more competitive and diverse skill—some dumbshit at blizzard.”

This post was edited by Jpgriever74 on Jul 1 2022 07:32pm
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