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Jan 26 2022 09:51am
Quote (Arkontas @ Jan 26 2022 10:45am)
well my wolves have like 2500 hp on ptr with a level 85 character, a shitty bo, and oak.

everyone else cant get stomped as easily with bone spear

zons dodge buff and ga buff

etc


we dont know yet tbh a lot changed at once.



okay so main druid until more testing is done. got it.
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Jan 26 2022 09:54am
Will these changes make barbs better in duels? with Leap spam?
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okay so main druid until more testing is done. got it.


i think bowzon is in a good spot (hybrid zon actually got nerfed with the cs synergy changes)


wind druid with its 2500 wolves (after bo and oak*** 600 normally) (they used to get 1 shot to things like teeth and multi, now theyre half what a bear used to be roughly) and i dont even know what the bear is now. probably a miniature baal (fire can be sorbed, they buffed geddon mostly, the build is a bit spastic, you lose cyclone barrier and a lot into oak depending on build- but maybe im wrong) stomping is harder now, but if you are used to people wsging you from d2l its not too different everyones just a god at wsg now lol.
e/ checked bear, base life 3250 155% oak / 83% bo okay yeah so it has 11k hp lmao.


bone necro for damage buffs. not much to say shit just hits harder lol.


foh paladin looks nasty as fuck. I imagine a lot of VTs will have smite be the secondary killer now. (that fire aura looks scary but it invites people to BM you with a ton of sorb and fire is easy to sorb.)


the barbs leaps start and end animation seems to be the same speed. alt ww and ww changes didnt seem to be in the patch notes. might be idk didnt test.


sins.. i didnt play much with them once we realised what happened to MB. we tested martial arts briefly the kicking ran into the same issue as charge.


didnt play hydra sorc. it looks neat tho. like a magical trapsin lol.



***just the opinion of a rusty nerd thats been playing this game over an unhealthily long timespan. not some tourny winner, tho i spammed the fuck out of private fpks in the past and will into the future now :)"***

This post was edited by Arkontas on Jan 26 2022 10:32am
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Jan 26 2022 10:13am
Quote (akademise @ Jan 26 2022 07:54am)
Will these changes make barbs better in duels? with Leap spam?


leap only works every odd time. theyll be running around normaly every even numbered leap.

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Jan 26 2022 10:20am
Quote (akademise @ Jan 26 2022 03:54pm)
Will these changes make barbs better in duels? with Leap spam?


Barbs need fixed ww to be better
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Jan 26 2022 10:32am
Theese developers should learn ziegler and nichol's rules when it comes to nerfing and buffing...

They are not able to find the sweet spot in the middle...

The game is beeing dumbed down. Hell, what we ecspect for a game that is beeing transfered to consoles...

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Jan 26 2022 11:40am
Quote (Arkontas @ Jan 26 2022 09:38am)
we tested leap and charge it ignores it on the second one and you can walk around normally.


It would appear then that whatever grace timer is making you immune to FHR is making you immune to knockback, so that completely neuters mind blast spam, charge, leap, guided arrow, lightning fury/bolt, etc.
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Jan 26 2022 11:42am
Quote (gel87 @ Jan 26 2022 07:32am)
Theese developers should learn ziegler and nichol's rules when it comes to nerfing and buffing...

They are not able to find the sweet spot in the middle...

The game is beeing dumbed down. Hell, what we ecspect for a game that is beeing transfered to consoles...


What do consoles have to do with them not knowing how to balance the game
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Jan 26 2022 11:48am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 26 2022 06:40pm)
It would appear then that whatever grace timer is making you immune to FHR is making you immune to knockback, so that completely neuters mind blast spam, charge, leap, guided arrow, lightning fury/bolt, etc.

Well, that's a nerf for ama in the hardest matchups vs barbs and palas.
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It would appear then that whatever grace timer is making you immune to FHR is making you immune to knockback, so that completely neuters mind blast spam, charge, leap, guided arrow, lightning fury/bolt, etc.


yeup. it will become a turn based dps check if both people sit there and try to trade basically. you have to hit them and leave at the end of their FHR otherwise they'll retaliate.

Quote (JahIthBear @ Jan 26 2022 09:42am)
What do consoles have to do with them not knowing how to balance the game


idk people just say random shit on jsp sometimes i just ignore it. We've been asking them for WSG back, they can't add WSG back without causing desync issues so they added the closest thing. They're listening to the pvp community, it's just tweaks from here.
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