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Mar 13 2024 07:59am
Quote (jackherer @ Mar 13 2024 09:39am)
Lol your argument is nonsense so you respond with condescending nonsense.

You in your emotions because your build is basically mage but use
Pride runeword.

Your build is shit hence why no one uses this trash.


Why so mad about him theorycrafting a different way to set-up the Mage Paladin for PVM?

I'm not saying this is a crazy game changer or anything but w/ my build I saw an increase of over 640 hammer dmg with no downside. The build still has all the density clearing capabilities of a pure FOHdin but adds the ability to hit 10k hammers against non-undead/demons when running TZs.

I thought I would miss Insight but running p8 Chaos I basically only need 1 mana pot as I tele in to the first seal then Redemption takes care of all the mana concerns from there.
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Mar 13 2024 08:01am
Quote (jackherer @ Mar 13 2024 09:57am)
Lol you way to emotionally invested in this topic bro

Have fun with your 75fcr hammerdin :thumbsup:


Can’t tell if you’re a dumb troll
Or just ultra dumb

Keep making up stuff, if all you can come up with as an argument is imagine stuff that was never said, pretty solid point you make there :thumbsup:
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Mar 13 2024 08:01am
Quote (XanderOptik @ Mar 13 2024 01:59pm)
Why so mad about him theorycrafting a different way to set-up the Mage Paladin for PVM?

I'm not saying this is a crazy game changer or anything but w/ my build I saw an increase of over 640 hammer dmg with no downside. The build still has all the density clearing capabilities of a pure FOHdin but adds the ability to hit 10k hammers against non-undead/demons when running TZs.

I thought I would miss Insight but running p8 Chaos I basically only need 1 mana pot as I tele in to the first seal then Redemption takes care of all the mana concerns from there.


I'm not he talked shit so I talked shit back

It's the circle of jsp life my friend.

All in all the build isn't as good as a hammerdin and thats just a fact.

This post was edited by jackherer on Mar 13 2024 08:02am
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Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ Mar 13 2024 02:01pm)
Can’t tell if you’re a dumb troll
Or just ultra dumb

Keep making up stuff, if all you can come up with as an argument is imagine stuff that was never said, pretty solid point you make there :thumbsup:


Quote (jackherer @ Mar 13 2024 02:01pm)
I'm not he talked shit so I talked shit back

It's the circle of jsp life my friend.

All in all the build isn't as good as a hammerdin and thats just a fact.


Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ Mar 13 2024 02:01pm)
Can’t tell if you’re a dumb troll
Or just ultra dumb

Keep making up stuff, if all you can come up with as an argument is imagine stuff that was never said, pretty solid point you make there :thumbsup:


You seem desperate for attention.

Are you related to void or romantically interested in they/them?

What's the crack here mate?


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Mar 13 2024 08:05am
Quote (Void511 @ 13 Mar 2024 21:50)
39 and 86 are the breakpoints for foh now


Hey another thing.. I was thinking hopefully not too dumb.

What if I run a Prayer Act 2 Merc

Cure / COH / Pride

Use Meditation as a main Aura for My Pangolin.

Is it silly or workable ? No problems with Mana and Life ?

3/3/3/3 Scepter ( Crazy of course )

But even a 3/2/2/2 Scepter works

125 FCR . 20 FCR on scepters

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Mar 13 2024 08:07am
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Quote (jackherer @ Mar 13 2024 10:01am)
I'm not he talked shit so I talked shit back

It's the circle of jsp life my friend.

All in all the build isn't as good as a hamnerdin and thats just a fact .


No it's not. That's your opinion but you don't seem to be interested in data. Pure hammerdin is great for clearing some zones but not very pleasant to play in others. With hammerdin you're either skipping magic immunes or slowly killing 1 at a time. Hybrid is a much a better build for doing TZs like Tombs, Catacombs etc.
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Quote (jackherer @ Mar 13 2024 10:01am)
I'm not he talked shit so I talked shit back

It's the circle of jsp life my friend.

All in all the build isn't as good as a hammerdin and thats just a fact.


How is having 2x more dmg than a hdin worst than a hdin?
If you take some time to try and understand how a foh/hammer hybrid works, you’re gonna start feeling real dumb for all you said so far.

Or you can stay ignorant and play a weak hdin like we did 20 years ago lol. Maybe this option is better so you don’t get hurt emotionally
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Quote (XanderOptik @ Mar 13 2024 02:06pm)
No it's not. That's your opinion but you don't seem to be interested in data. Pure hammerdin is great for clearing some zones but not very pleasant to play in others. With hammerdin you're either skipping magic immunes or slowly killing 1 at a time. Hybrid is a much a better build for doing TZs like Tombs, Catacombs etc.


Who kills everything in a tz? That makes you slow.

Some tz are straight up awful and you're better off watching Netflix for an hour.

Each to their own but don't pretend this build is better than a straight up hammerdin because it's not.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Mar 13 2024 10:05am)
Hey another thing.. I was thinking hopefully not too dumb.

What if I run a Prayer Act 2 Merc

Cure / COH / Pride

Use Meditation as a main Aura for My Pangolin.

Is it silly or workable ? No problems with Mana and Life ?


i was actually thinking about that when i was trying the build out last night. my only concern with running cure/COH is that i think fortitude greatly increases your merc's survivability over COH. his ability to leech is based off his ability to deal physical damage so IMO the 300ed from fortitude and might aura are the way to go for his survivability. chilling armor is a nice bonus from forti as well.
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Quote (XanderOptik @ 13 Mar 2024 22:06)
No it's not. That's your opinion but you don't seem to be interested in data. Pure hammerdin is great for clearing some zones but not very pleasant to play in others. With hammerdin you're either skipping magic immunes or slowly killing 1 at a time. Hybrid is a much a better build for doing TZs like Tombs, Catacombs etc.


FOH is also the fastest Killer in Chaos with absolutely shitty gear. I really enjoy it very much.
My ladder character doesn't even have a Enigma even when the prices of Jahs and Bers are crap.

I was running with a dual spirit and smoke setup till last week . But I upgraded to a Vipermagi on Sunday since I farmed everything myself .

I was ripping through chaos with level 25 FOH in Chaos.. OFC single player. But I play to release work stress so pretty fun really. And I do the standard Pits, Arcane , Chaos , Pindle Routes and ACT 1 TZs. Flayer Jungle.
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