Quote (dannywanghere @ Jan 29 2024 01:59pm)

Show me one piece of evidence that isn't you making stuff up. Lol at botter "metrics"

Here's evidence that PVM carries D2R
- open up the game and count the number of dueling games vs the number of PVM games (baal, leveling, MF, etc)
- look at D2R patches. Every change ever made for D2R was made for PVM, blizzard hasn't made even one change that was purely prioritizing PVP
- look at D3/D4
- go to sites that aren't JSP and use common sense

Quote (Virtuous @ Jan 31 2024 12:04am)

I'd play again if there was a mode where you can't trade with other players.

No sense in "dueling" against someone who spent cash for gear. It's just a bunch of old farts with the same old overused builds as it has been for 10+ years.

Quote (Sakata @ 30 Jan 2024 19:25)

there is you absolute dweeb go play single player like you want

Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Jan 29 2024 02:53pm)

It really has been proven. Tons of these botters have tons of metrics showing what sells and doesn’t. By far, the data time after time shows the vast majority of economic output is by people buying pvp gear. It’s not even close.

Quote (JiroJif @ Jan 30 2024 06:28am)

What you’re calling “pvp gear” is just perfect items, which many pvm’ers like too. Many pvm’ers actively try to avoid buying from botters but can work a shift to buy gear too. With absence of data, DannyWangs argument seems more sound.

Quote (Loki15 @ Jan 29 2024 01:46pm)

Nobody only mfing/pvm - can pvp because they are smacked tf up against us jsp’ers who are more serious about the game, this they dont even try to get better or are willing to put $100s if not $1000s into d2r to compete.

Or they are unwilling to convert there items into fg over a few seasons to build wealth. They want to stay in a bronze lobby mentality forever

Quote (Virtuous @ Jan 31 2024 01:21am)

You can't duel other players in single player (obviously).