That is true, eth tombreaver is still viable for wolf.
My fcr builds also may lack res sometimes, which eth reapers helps with.

Fun with many good weps though, good we have bigger stash space and mule and token, much fun to try, now we only need a cool buff to werebear and we can really enjoy all type of druids builds. The last 5 or 8 years i have mainly played only funchars in pvp^^

u liek druids huh

I am messing with my normal attack calculator and encounter a problem

Let's say I have a 90 IAS tomb weaver, and I want to know how much IAS I need to archive max speed

IAS = 120*(EIAS-SIAS+WSM)/120-(EIAS-SIAS+WSM)

Since Bear Druid has literly 0 SIAS, and the EIAS for max speed is 143, I will be plugging in the number as follows

=120*(143-0+10)/120-(143-0+10)
=120*153/120-153
=18360/-33
= -556?

Is this a bug or what is happening here?

Did I do something wrong with the calculation?

This post was edited by Kisekinecro on Mar 9 2022 03:17pm

Tomb IS dead and Grief shall be BiS for all.
No matter how you calculate Grief shall be top damage and you can get additional 400% ED with phoenix shield with the same breakpoints now.

Amazing analysis

How likely is it that you produce a calculator where you can plug in your gear ias / skill lvl / aura lvl etc?

Damage Wise IF in Berserker Axe, which requires very signifcant Gear IAS, not in Phase Blade, by itself without Phoenix it is below EBOTDs and Tomb reaver, with Phoenix it will be close, note that unless you use a 2 os helm and lvl 42 WW (only viable in PvP), you cannot use Fortitude, as you need another 15 ias in your Armor, so tecnically you lose that 300% ed that other 2 handers could use. The problem with Phase Blade is % ed doesn’t help as much including the Shape Shifters GCs you very much need now for the IAS.

For PvP however range 3 is not the best in all situations, and you often ned resistances (Tomb Reaver range 4), weapons like EBOTD GT and GPA have range 5 at the expense of resistances and are great options too, again Grief BA + Phoenix is roughly same damage than EBOTD GPA + Fort, I ran the numbers. But if you can get Grief BA + Grief + Fortitude with a lvl 42 AND 2 os Helm, then it wins slightly but you still have range 3

This post was edited by oscarmk on Mar 9 2022 03:37pm

That's not correct, 400 base dmg on top of xxx% ED is always better than 200-300 base dmg on top of xxx% ED.
It's really easy to find ias without too much sacrifice. We're talking about the same breakpoints, so clear speeds with grief shall be so much better.

The formula does this on inzane ias needs.
It basicly mean u need indefinitly ammount of ias. It stays positive up to something around 2k, then it starts going negative:
Just an example. I believe it is since i did not cap the eias at 0 for bottom value.. I dno..
I just Ignore those cause it means u need unreachable ias.



Grief has low range adder though.



I already have that, but in excel. I dno how i share an excel sheet.
I would also maby need to lock all squares with the exception of a few ias off

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The polearm have higher average damage.. In most cases. But its the range adder that is important, as well as you can reach a higher ias. As well as it step up breakpoints faster(the breakpoints are at higher fpa.)

So if ur werewolf level is fine, then 80ias giant tresher is same speed as 70 ias grief.

Giant tresher has -10 wsm and 77average base.
Lets assume perf eth botd.
77*1,5*5,15 = 594 average.

Grief pb 15% ed is:
33*1,15+400 = 437

And then i choose a pretty low average base dmg type of polearm.

But yes, grief is inzane, and most likely it will be close or same if pheonix shield. And for pvm range adder aint that important.

Pheonix ofc adds a epic aura, max lr, max fr, life etc..

Not sure whar you are referring to exactly, and I don’t mean to offend but this might be useful:
https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php/Damage

Essentially Fortitude and any other off weapon ed% will give a higher boost in the polearm than in Grief, because the polearm after the weapon ed, and even counting the 20% deadly strike in the Grief, the polearm still ends with a higher base damage that then gets the % modifiers applied, this is both Shape Shifting GCs AND fortitude/Phoenix etc.

This post was edited by oscarmk on Mar 9 2022 04:25pm

And it is also lower damage even with Phoenix, although Phoenix + Fort I believe is more, but unless lvl 42 WW and 2 os helm, you have to use Grief PB, and while the damage difference itself is not big compared to Grief BA, you drop to 2 range, which is pretty crappy in PvP (but is fine for strictly Melee duels as range is almost irrelevant there, except for maybe at beginning with Shift + attack)

This post was edited by oscarmk on Mar 9 2022 04:31pm