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Nov 8 2021 07:03pm
So I tried using a 6 Shael PB with a broken offhand for WW

Seems like the exact same hit rate as Grief

But I'm just going off the sound effect, not sure how you fancy boys calculate these things, willing to let someone borrow my 6shael PB to test it
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Nov 9 2021 10:15am
Quote (KTap @ Nov 8 2021 08:37pm)
video is unnecessarily long, but at 1:25 you can see 82 vs 102 ias quickly, which makes me think the new eias bp is 79, or 83 ias from gear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s2hGRvJ24A


i saw your vid prolly 10x already :P, great quality btw! ty mate

the ias needed for each breakpoint i can't explain now, we have two options for zerk
a. i could picked the wrong formula numbers wich i checked and saw the table of other user and is the same, so woudn't for
now how to explain that, bcuz the 40%/42% ias could be a single deviance, but the jump of 80% to any 80%+ shouldn't exist
using the usual formula (120*(Eias- SIAS + WSM))/(120-(Eias - SIAS +WSM)) = ias needed

b. d2r fucked not only ww (prooved) but zerk too (i wouldn't jump to this conclusion, the most propable cenario is i'm wrong)
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Nov 9 2021 10:26am
Quote (ThoroBR @ Nov 9 2021 09:15am)
b. d2r fucked not only ww (prooved)


How so? Haven't heard about this

oh you just mean the broken offhand thing?

This post was edited by Nibthebarb on Nov 9 2021 10:29am
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Quote (ThoroBR @ Nov 9 2021 08:15am)
i saw your vid prolly 10x already :P, great quality btw! ty mate

the ias needed for each breakpoint i can't explain now, we have two options for zerk
a. i could picked the wrong formula numbers wich i checked and saw the table of other user and is the same, so woudn't for
now how to explain that, bcuz the 40%/42% ias could be a single deviance, but the jump of 80% to any 80%+ shouldn't exist
using the usual formula (120*(Eias- SIAS + WSM))/(120-(Eias - SIAS +WSM)) = ias needed

b. d2r fucked not only ww (prooved) but zerk too (i wouldn't jump to this conclusion, the most propable cenario is i'm wrong)


I vote option B lol, there are a lot of interesting things happening with mechanics atm
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Nov 9 2021 11:26am
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=88731105&f=148&p=590616420#p590616420

I updated my formulas with ceiling/floor, fix of serial kicks, added loads of attacks including zerk/bow/throw/frenzy/double throw, wirl etc for barb, ama skills, and i can do paladin quickly.
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Quote (KTap @ Nov 9 2021 12:37am)
video is unnecessarily long, but at 1:25 you can see 82 vs 102 ias quickly, which makes me think the new eias bp is 79, or 83 ias from gear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s2hGRvJ24A


The new eias break should be 78

https://imgur.com/gallery/ZraDjsO

This post was edited by gel87 on Nov 9 2021 11:33am
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Quote (gel87 @ Nov 9 2021 10:26am)
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=88731105&f=148&p=590616420#p590616420

I updated my formulas with ceiling/floor, fix of serial kicks, added loads of attacks including zerk/bow/throw/frenzy/double throw, wirl etc for barb, ama skills, and i can do paladin quickly.


Frames 2 handed wep:
=If(Eias>59;4;If(Eias>29;6;If(Eias>9;8;If(Eias>-1;10;12))))

Forgive me as I'm not a formula kinda guy, but that means EBotd CB (base as 5) can't hit final BP for WW because max Eias is 55? So only GPA and Ghost Spear can? Doth the ias calc lie?
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Quote (Nibthebarb @ Nov 9 2021 06:33pm)
Frames 2 handed wep:
=If(Eias>59;4;If(Eias>29;6;If(Eias>9;8;If(Eias>-1;10;12))))

Forgive me as I'm not a formula kinda guy, but that means EBotd CB (base as 5) can't hit final BP for WW because max Eias is 55? So only GPA and Ghost Spear can? Doth the ias calc lie?


For wirl i used this link for breakpoints:
https://diablo-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Whirlwind_(Diablo_II)

Is that outdated?
If so i need to change this xD
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The new eias break should be 78

https://imgur.com/gallery/ZraDjsO


Should be, but it isn't according to my ghetto testing in the video. I tested both 80 and 82 ias (78 eias), neither hit the new breakpoint, but 85 ias did (79 eias)

here was my original testing:

40 ias pb + 40 ias from gear = no increase
40 ias pb + 45 ias from gear = yes

37 ias pb + 45 ias from gear = no increase
37 ias pb + 50 ias from gear = yes

30 ias pb + 50 ias from gear = no increase
30 ias pb + 55 ias from gear = yes

This post was edited by KTap on Nov 9 2021 11:40am
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Quote (KTap @ Nov 9 2021 06:36pm)
Should be, but it isn't according to my ghetto testing in the video. I tested both 80 and 82 ias (78 eias), neither hit the new breakpoint, but 85 ias did (79 eias)


Oh, thats wierd xD
Cause 78eias should be 7,988frames.
So then its not a rounding fauilt either xD
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