Your build is actually worse than the meme build, congrats.

What's the meme build? The 3/3/3/20 orb? That's not even a meme build that's a pipedream. My build is ultra cheap and accomplishes 99% of what the infinity build does with no infinity... Idk you theorycrafting idiots are all the same you disregard pricing, overkill, magicfind - all the real world stats that matter...

Same

What about my build,

Griffs
3 nova 3 LM Obsession
3 skill 75 plr ammy
20/20 75plr armor
soj soj
arach
frosties
idc boots.

I mostly played it because it was different and +7nova +7lm was nice big dmg on sheet

No medi but I played in groups to 99 who always had medi

This post was edited by Homosexual419 on Oct 27 2025 06:52pm

This is still the best build in the game
The 4 tal piece set build
Take a look everyone

Build #4 is yours but with insight, cuz it wouldn't be fair to compare against other builds that don't rely on other teammates to get meditation.
It is much weaker overall.
Build #5 is with infinity + insight from another player in range.
Still really not as good as standard build even when supported by another player's merc. It does achieve higher mana, but there is no difference between not dying and not dying.
The overall total dps of combined static + nova across 0/33/50/95 res is approximately 25% less than the standard self-wield build.
It falls in last place among those builds.

1.
viper + 3/10 amy + CTA/splendor
nova dps: 28,276 / 28,276 / 28,726 / 15,128
static: 26.45% / 33.25% / 38.1% / 26.75%
mana: 3,223
life: 1,319
def: 3,393
light res: -65
mdr: 13

2.
ormus + 2/20fcr/20@/35pr amy + 3es CTA
nova dps: 28,728 / 28,728 / 28,728 / 15,370
static: 26.45% / 33.25% / 38.1% / 26.75%
mana: 3,187
life: 1,281
def: 2,354
light res: -80
mdr: 0

3.
3/3/3 20fcr 2os orb + 2/20fcr/20@/35p amy + 8x facet armor/shield + 3es CTA (no infinity merc)
nova dps: 31,873 / 25,863 / 22,766 / 14,571
static: 43.75% / 35.5% / 31.25% / 20%
mana: 3,305
life: 1,354
def: 2,597
light res: -80
mdr: 0

4.
7/7 obsession + 20/20 armor + insight
nova dps: 24,197 / 18,690 / 15,853 / 8,344
static: 36.25% / 28% / 23.75% / 12.5%
mana: 3,785
life: 1,398
def: 2,274
light res: -30
mdr: 0

5.
7/7 obsession + 20/20 armor + infinity + insight from another player
nova dps: 33,375 / 32,874 / 30,037 / 11,191
static: 26.5% / 32.75% / 34% / 16.75%
mana: 3,785
life: 1,398
def: 2,274
light res: -30
mdr: 0

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Oct 27 2025 08:22pm

Comparing the standard self-wield build with all perfect def on items
1. eTreks + upd viper + 1x upd mages
vs
2. perf 62 def, 40pr, 60mana caster wyrmhide boots + unupd viper and mages + 31 extra pts in energy

Vs a normal TZ 96 p8 Enslaved mob
1. 3,393 def = 61% chance to be hit
2. 1,482 def = 79% chance to be hit

Total life/mana
1. 1319/3223
2. 1289/3580

Psn res
1. 75
2. 45

Fhr frames
1. 11
2. 15 (or 13 if 10fhr on caster boots)

IMO, 100% perfect caster boots with 60mana, 40pr, 30frw, 10fhr, perfect def roll are not half as good as eTreks.
Their only advantage is having higher mana, which feels unnecessary above 3k.
At this point you benefit more overall from the extra def/pr/life/fhr.
They are just way more accessible also.

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Oct 27 2025 08:48pm

Hey Sins thanks for the write up. Have you done one for traps in by any chance? I saw some folks on redit post some Maxroll builds and the difference between Spirit Crescent Moon and very expensive trap claws was something like 15% and wanted to see if you or anyone else could confirm before I maybe waste a lot of coins.

Also, for build one, I have 3 sorc amulets that are 2/10. One has 29 str, one has 46 life 20@ and the last one has 30 PR and 75PLR. Which one of these do you think is best or should I just get a 3/10?

Thank you for this excellent study.

Good to see that there are still people who care about Diablo.

Best,

Some of us do want to mf while gaining exp and we do kill champions and uniques who can drop GG item and MF does matter. And yeah sometimes we don't want to play the horking barb, and we don't need runes or socketable items cuz we already got a ton but we haven't find tyraels lol