who cares about a shako

who cares about finding a tals ammy to find another tals ammy to find another shako


mega rares require 1000s of rolls, and the average player will come no where near EVER , EVER EVER FKN EVER in THERE ENTIRE LIFE PLAYING 24 7

finding godly 100% perfect gear.

Could you log in? I couldn't and remembered waiting in line. Game had a healthy population especially for a remaster.
Its not anywhere near what it was and now its filled by bots.

This post was edited by FORt-HOBO on Jan 29 2024 01:24pm

I think majority of PvM players lost interest because majority are not extreme addicts like us here. That would be the main reason why the population is nowhere as high as during release.

There's absolutely zero evidence for what you're suggesting, you're pulling claims out of your ass. Pvmers spend thousands of times more because they outnumber pvpers by a huge amount. You're also failing to recognize that there are PVM whales too

Look at games like genshin impact for example. Pvmers can whale harder than pvpers to the point of spending hundreds of thousands of USD

A 20/5 is like 1700fg.

A Ber is like 30fg

1x 20/5 = 56.6 bers

Pvpers need 10x 20/5 in genenral.

That’s 560 bers.

The amount of pvmers that need/use 560ber worth of gear is incredibly small.

And we are only talking about 10x small charms. Let alone circlets, 2/20 amulets, rinfs, 9x 45s etc etc etc.


Pvpers account for significantly more economic activity then a pvmer. By far.

Lol, this doesn't prove anything. Pvmers buy perfects including 45 life charms (45 life lightning GCs aren't even used in PVP for example, and very expensive). The vast majority of pvpers don't buy 20/5s, if anything it's PVMers who buy 20/5s. Pvpers use 19/11s or 20/10s even if very serious. Tournament winning pvpers are often using 19/11s for example

Also, for every 1 pvper you can probably find thousands of pvmers

This post was edited by dannywanghere on Jan 29 2024 01:48pm

You are significantly under estimating the amount of pvpers. Not to mention pvpers have more then 1 fully built chatavher genenraly.

You are over estimating the amount of pvmers that use 45s.

It’s been proven time and time and time again over ladder periods on both lod and d2r, that pvp is the driver of the economy.

It's never been proven once and there is strong evidence that PVM carries the game. Blizzard can see actual engagement numbers and there is a reason why PVP was not prioritized in D3/D4, they have actual data proving PVP is not popular

You can even see it in D2R because patches are always PVM focused. Nobody pvps except for a small group of people, probably less than 100 people in the world spending thousands of PVP gear

It really has been proven. Tons of these botters have tons of metrics showing what sells and doesn’t. By far, the data time after time shows the vast majority of economic output is by people buying pvp gear. It’s not even close.

Show me one piece of evidence that isn't you making stuff up. Lol at botter "metrics"

Here's evidence that PVM carries D2R
- open up the game and count the number of dueling games vs the number of PVM games (baal, leveling, MF, etc)
- look at D2R patches. Every change ever made for D2R was made for PVM, blizzard hasn't made even one change that was purely prioritizing PVP
- look at D3/D4
- go to sites that aren't JSP and use common sense