Thanks a lot I learned quite a bit while figuring it out. Thx for tracking all those runs!

Ty for you service.

By the way: did you get hit by a ban? I think some people got banned falsely for doing a lot of trav. And you did a LOT

No ban for me! But I believe they did a lot more than me, and I'm sure some of those claims were actually botters... I've only done 2000 runs this ladder. These results are over a year of horking

i mean, i'm clearing seeing a corpse shatter there lol

Also, the decrep didn't proc, and I read in one of your other comments that you didn't increase IAS on purpose..which sorta makes no sense - the whole point is to get the decrep proc as fast as possible.

I don't count successful horks, I count total hork casts.



Didn't think about cold immunes, that makes sense, although probably statistically negligable. I think killing stuff faster than 1 frame after cold dmg is also going to be negligible statistically. Avg ttk for whole mob is slightly under 10s, and 1 frame is 1/25 of a second.



Pretty sure that formula is only for chance to freeze/chill from an items that grant "chance to freeze on hit", and not applicable to cold dmg in general. Cold damage sources will pretty much always chill except for certain unchillable enemies like death lord, or the cold enchanted monsters you mentioned previously.

I am not a botter or anything. I'm a manual trav farmer. I farmed about 200-400 travs a day manually this ladder depending on my uptime, so somewhere in the vicinity of 5-8k travs this ladder. Some days I was busy irl, and so forth, but a pretty steady stream of travving.

I ripped a ban for manually doing this, for botting. Literally no automation, no programs just banned for botting for farming trav.

Btw I got 1 soj total as well.

Show me one piece of evidence that supports this claim.

This post was edited by justAddi on Nov 7 2022 09:09am

Your freeze formula is basically from here:

https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php/Freezes_Target

cold dmg is independent of "freeze target" mechanic

http://theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php/Cold_Damage

Note that nothing in cold dmg is % based on levels, etc

Wow, obv I read that page too but for some reason didn't piece it together correctly.. I thought that because it said "Chance to freeze/chill" it meant that it also applied to cold damage itself, but it just meant that if the enemy can't be frozen, it will be chilled instead. Thx for pointing it out!

Alright, so you have the chance to freeze if you have a weapon with +Freeze (with Pride), which will still be correct. But besides that, you have a guaranteed chill from Reaper's cold dmg (if monster is succesffully hit and not cold immune etc). This chill will lead to shatter in 20% of time.

I can't edit my old post, so, just ignore the calculations without Pride.

This post was edited by justAddi on Nov 7 2022 09:35am

Yea np, wording can be confusing sometimes on those 20 year old sites. A lot of times you just have to play a ton to get a feel of what's happening.

I was going to upload a video of just letting merc dps everything, and then counting corpses left to hork, but it sounds like you're convinced. It ended up being about 2 corpses shattered per run after 4 runs , which is close enough to 20% if you factor in the sometimes cold enchanted spawn.

Yeah nn to upload some vid, I am convinced. Also, of course I am currently working and couldn't check in game, else I might have not needed to do all this