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Druid is definitely thee most interesting char in the new patch Iv made two since patch and most likely another for ladder
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Apr 26 2022 10:35pm
Quote (rabidfruits @ Apr 27 2022 11:29am)
Was wondering if the IAS change means a phoenix legendary mallet would be an option. 285 average dmg on a perfect mallet... vs 400+ damage on grief. Twice the ctc firestorm and -28 fire res though. As oscar said high density could favor the phoenix or I've also heard firestorm hits large targets multiple times with one cast... so potentially more fire damage vs. act bosses.


Do we even have enough skill points to fill up the firestorm sinergies?
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Apr 26 2022 10:40pm
Quote (Araharja @ Apr 26 2022 11:35pm)
Do we even have enough skill points to fill up the firestorm sinergies?


you can forfeit some points in werewolf/lycantrophy to do it, you don’t have to fully synergize it to be effective either. To put it in perspective the popular hybrid rabies/fury (which isn’t that effective anymore in 2.4 sadly), was able to max the two synergies and still have Fury. Firestorm also has two synergies, however you want at least enough points in werewolf for an IAS BP that allows for 3 frames with highlords + Loh and perhaps 15ias/mod jewel in helm if needed, won’t need that many. Grief PB reaches 3 frames very easily.

Note werewolf also gives AR, but Grief has ITD, you don’t need AR.

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Apr 26 2022 10:46pm
Quote (oscarmk @ 23 Apr 2022 00:54)
Should be Grief Pb + Fort + Phoenix + Steelrend(LoH if demons) + highlords + gore rider + guillaumes (pve)
Need 38 ias grief pb with highlords you reach 3 frames
This will be by far the strongest and fastest melee hit in the game
As mentioned you can also synergize firestorm for even more damage, use Heart of Wolverine spirit.
Merc can use Pride.


What site did you use to calculate 38? I tried highlords with 34 and 38 grief but struggled to see the difference. Maybe it's so fast it's difficult to see? =P
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Apr 26 2022 10:47pm
Quote (Fermeiony @ Apr 26 2022 11:46pm)
What site did you use to calculate 38? I tried highlords with 34 and 38 grief but struggled to see the difference. Maybe it's so fast it's difficult to see? =P



Use this calculator, depends on your werewolf level the IAS you need for breakpoints
https://chthonvii.github.io/d2r_24ptr2_wereform_calculator/
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Apr 26 2022 11:19pm
Quote (oscarmk @ 27 Apr 2022 06:47)
Use this calculator, depends on your werewolf level the IAS you need for breakpoints
https://chthonvii.github.io/d2r_24ptr2_wereform_calculator/


Ah ok, thanks. My slvl is only 29 so I guess I want even hitting the fastest attack speed. Is it correct that you need slvl 38 with the highlord + 38 grief setup?
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Apr 26 2022 11:26pm
Main problem is that there are a LOT of fire inmunes.
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Apr 26 2022 11:58pm
Quote (cantero @ Apr 27 2022 12:26pm)
Main problem is that there are a LOT of fire inmunes.


Infinity on merc and physical part of your fury.
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Quote (oscarmk @ Apr 26 2022 11:37pm)
Yeah definitely, not to mention attacking at 3 frames, you will proc multiple firestorms at once, each doing aoe damage.


How does the firestorm synergy work with phoenix? I found I don't have many skills left for firestorm. Would you go hybrid?
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Quote (rabidfruits @ Apr 27 2022 06:29am)
Was wondering if the IAS change means a phoenix legendary mallet would be an option. 285 average dmg on a perfect mallet... vs 400+ damage on grief. Twice the ctc firestorm and -28 fire res though. As oscar said high density could favor the phoenix or I've also heard firestorm hits large targets multiple times with one cast... so potentially more fire damage vs. act bosses.


Sadly not. You attack 5 to 6 times a second with fury. Your chance to cast firestorm is 40% with a 04 seconds cast delay.

It's just the additional - res that are great. Anything else is way worse than grief. No 3 fps. No DS. No 180% extra ed against demons. Less overall dmg.


I want them to add the lvl cast like auras. Those skills are always underwhelming. Lvl 44 firestorm would be 6k instead of just 1.5k for lvl 22

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