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Mar 6 2022 09:30pm
Quote (Lycans @ Mar 6 2022 09:24pm)
that is only coming from a fury druids perspective though these changes are about opening options for a class not 1 specific build

yes the changes are good for fury druid, but it shouldnt be at the cost of fireclaw, rabies, or bear form just to increase a plain jane pure fury spec


Yes, the buff is mostly for Fury, rabies should probably get the same 40% buff than fury did. Not sure what can be done about bears they did get more defense, fire claw damage and uniterruptible, but the speed need is huge.
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Mar 6 2022 09:32pm
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Yes, the buff is mostly for Fury, rabies should probably get the same 40% buff than fury did. Not sure what can be done about bears they did get more defense, fire claw damage and uniterruptible, but the speed need is huge.


fury/rabies spec requires points taken out of werewolf to max poison creeper which now reduces the werewolf skill ias contribution into the table so it nerfs that builds viability in pvp because we cant have 1 pt werewolf in order to keep the damages

now hilords and ias gloves are mandatory at all times in order to even be competitive so rip maras, skill lifer ammy, steelrends, bloodfists that wipes out a vast amount of gear options to keep up with something we already have thats not progress thats trading 1 evil for another which to my point shapeshifting as a class isnt getting proper rework like these other classes hell people are talking about fohdin now being the go to baaler class instead of hammers, but shapeshift players got to fight just to get anything thats wack

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Mar 6 2022 09:35pm
Quote (Lycans @ Mar 6 2022 09:32pm)
fury/rabies spec requires points taken out of werewolf to max poison creeper which now reduces the werewolf skill ias contribution into the table so it nerfs that builds viability in pvp because we cant have 1 pt werewolf in order to keep the damages


Agreed, I have run some numbers with 1 PT werewolf, Grief PB and EBOTD GT can still reach 3 frames but you need the IAS gloves, and 15% ias helm (dont need 30), however this could have been 5/5 poison for example so I see your point.

I ran these calculations, as I want to do a hybrid Firestorm spec with Phoenix Shield, it seems I won’t get full synergy but will be close, and will need 10 hard points in WW if I want Grief BA, 1 point is enough for Grief PB, however BA benefits a lot more from SS GCs as opposed to PB

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Mar 6 2022 09:36pm
Quote (Lycans @ Mar 6 2022 09:28pm)
based on that point alone it banishes jalals,cerberus, or any druid specific helms just to run 30ias in a helm for speed we already have thats gear limiting for every spec BUT pure fury which is not what these updates should be about



30 IAS helm is only needed for the harder hitting weapons to reach 3 fpa, that is GPA and BA, you can use PB and GT instead to hit 3 frames with 4 opening (down from 7)
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30 IAS helm is only needed for the harder hitting weapons to reach 3 fpa, that is GPA and BA, you can use PB and GT instead to hit 3 frames with 4 opening (down from 7)


im telling you it does not go on ptr and put on a 6 shael pb and tell me if your hitting more than 6-7 frames you still have to mandatorily wear ias gloves and highlords to even reach 5 frames
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Mar 6 2022 09:39pm
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im telling you it does not go on ptr and put on a 6 shael pb and tell me if your hitting more than 6-7 frames you still have to mandatorily wear ias gloves and highlords to even reach 5 frames


like i said its a buff to fury but a nerf to any other shapeshifting option in werewolf form or even bear form

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Mar 6 2022 09:58pm
Quote (Lycans @ Mar 6 2022 09:38pm)
im telling you it does not go on ptr and put on a 6 shael pb and tell me if your hitting more than 6-7 frames you still have to mandatorily wear ias gloves and highlords to even reach 5 frames


Yes, this is true for rabies, sorry I wasn’t clear, was talking about Fury as far as old endpoints.

I think they should add the same speed buff to rabies, otherwise as you mention it is too slow.
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Quote (Lycans @ Mar 7 2022 04:39am)
like i said its a buff to fury but a nerf to any other shapeshifting option in werewolf form or even bear form


True , but its a gigantic buff that makes druid one of the best options for both pvm and pvp. I don't care too much about rabies druid , just that they make bear somewhat good again.
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Mar 7 2022 02:55am
Don't mean to be obtuse but I didn't understand yet. What are the breakpoints for berserker axe assuming a lvl42 werewolf (77 skill ias)?
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